Members fourthave_cafe Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 http://youtube.com/watch?v=3DKx5loMcU8&search=sugizo%20 At 2:17, he's getting some insane sustain. Can a compressor get there, or is he using something else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Klisk Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Sounds like he's just using tons of reverb/echo, and oh yeah... Sugizo model guitar. Which has a Fernandes Sustainer Driver pickup. I don't think a compressor would quite get you there, but it could help, especially if your guitar has a lot of natural sustain. The right type of gain could help, too. For example, big muffs are known to create the illusion of much sustain. Man, I miss oldschool Luna Sea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fourthave_cafe Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Hmm thats what I thought. I didn't think the 3 single coil models had the sustainer in it. Guess so. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Do you think a Boss DD-20 delay will get that same effect, or would something else work? I miss old school Luna Sea too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Fork Man Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 haha...those guys are silly...the music's not bad, though ty, Fork Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pwn3d Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by fourthave_cafe Hmm thats what I thought. I didn't think the 3 single coil models had the sustainer in it. Guess so. Thanks for clearing that up for me. Do you think a Boss DD-20 delay will get that same effect, or would something else work? I miss old school Luna Sea too you also need reverb. I like my DL4>>RV3 combo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fourthave_cafe Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Reverb too? So a DL4 and a RV-3 would nail that sound, or come close to it? Awesome. Only pedal I have is a distortion/overdrive, so I want to start making a board. Thanks for all the help, makes me want to cry haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pwn3d Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by fourthave_cafe Reverb too? So a DL4 and a RV-3 would nail that sound, or come close to it? Awesome. Only pedal I have is a distortion/overdrive, so I want to start making a board. Thanks for all the help, makes me want to cry haha. I the DL4 is a great tool, its done all I've wanted it to, but I cant comment on how it faces the dd20. The RV3 however does not really like gain pedals. I usually can get that type of sustain playing clean, but it dosent suit the music so to say. I would suggest looking at the verbzilla for reverb. - nic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fourthave_cafe Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 The problem is that I can only afford one of the two. Will I be better off with the delay or the reverb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members endo23 Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 That was some of the gheyest "rock" music I've ever heard. Thank you for the link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members Klisk Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by fourthave_cafe The problem is that I can only afford one of the two. Will I be better off with the delay or the reverb? For solos? Reverb. But you're going to want to get a delay, too... Verbzilla is my choice for reverb. A nice cheap delay would be the Ibanez DE7. That would make a nice coupling. Try to buy used! Ebay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members murphj1 Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 a boss cs-3 pushing, distortion/fuzz, and a cookin amp will get you damn close to that much sustain. oh yes and it will sound every bit as cheese dick as that. that was why i didn't like it. because you can't keep it from sounding cheese dick. BTW, i'm with endo23. that was {censored}ing ghey! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members murphj1 Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 oh my god that was gay. honestly, i feel sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members choadwarrior Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by murphj1 oh my god that was gay. honestly, i feel sick. haha..I like that that required an additional reply.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members endo23 Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by choadwarrior haha..I like that that required an additional reply.. Well did you see the part where Teased Bangs strikes a Jesus Christ pose and an industrial strength fan sends his dyed mane skyward? GHEY!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Klisk Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 It's generally unsafe to mention Japanese rock in the Effects forum. Because it's typically perceived as ghey. I learned this quite a while back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fourthave_cafe Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Haha yeah, seems like it. Whatever, thanks a lot for helping me out Kilsk, and Pwn3d too. I guess people will never open up to anything that they don't like the looks of. Everyone always checks at the appearances first. Props to Fork Man for looking past the "gheyness," and liking the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members murphj1 Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 what no thanks for murphj1. i might have made a little fun of your ghey video, but i was serious about the cs-3. it'll do that {censored}. and a hell of alot cheaper than a sustainer. you can pick one up for $30 or $ 40 bucks. thats what i get for trying to help someone out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fourthave_cafe Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Ah, my bad, my bad. Thanks, didn't notice it. I understand how you feel, you guys aren't used to Japanese music, so what can I expect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Klisk Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by fourthave_cafe Haha yeah, seems like it. Whatever, thanks a lot for helping me out Kilsk, and Pwn3d too. I guess people will never open up to anything that they don't like the looks of. Everyone always checks at the appearances first. Props to Fork Man for looking past the "gheyness," and liking the music. Well even so, murphj1 still was right about the cs-3 being a sustainer replacement. You'll still need some reverb/echo/delay along with it, though, if you listen to the video closely. But yeah. You're welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fourthave_cafe Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Thanks for all the suggestions, I'll go try them out this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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