Members tayholliday Posted October 1, 2006 Members Share Posted October 1, 2006 Hi Folks, I have an 18' pedalsnake cable running between amp and pedalboard for the effects loop. Because of the 36' of cable, I'm loosing high frequencies. Anyone know of a good way that I can make the loop more transparent, without needing to have the pedals right next to the amp? thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Johnny Fandango Posted October 1, 2006 Members Share Posted October 1, 2006 Maybe a line driver at the start of the chain...maybe Cornish if you have stupid amounts of fat cash to blow:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted October 2, 2006 Members Share Posted October 2, 2006 Originally posted by tayholliday Hi Folks, I have an 18' pedalsnake cable running between amp and pedalboard for the effects loop. Because of the 36' of cable, I'm loosing high frequencies. Anyone know of a good way that I can make the loop more transparent, without needing to have the pedals right next to the amp?thanks! Are you sure. An effects loop is low impedance. There should be little to no noticable high frequency loss at all over that distance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tayholliday Posted October 2, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 2, 2006 Are you sure. An effects loop is low impedance. There should be little to no noticable high frequency loss at all over that distance. It's quite noticeable, unfortunately. I'm fairly sure its the cable length because I completed the loop without any pedals (using a small adapter) and the high frequency loss persists. I've also tried various cables. The short patch cables don't have any noticeable attenuation of high frequencies, whereas long instrument cables do (20'+). I'd be surprised if the loop is high-Z, but I've emailed Orange about it. The amp is an Orange Rockerverb 50. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justintee Posted October 2, 2006 Members Share Posted October 2, 2006 are all your pedals true-bypass? if it is there maybe issues with your p'ups having to provide all the capacitance. maybe a non-tb pedal up front first, or a buffer like the morning dew eq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alteredsounds Posted October 2, 2006 Members Share Posted October 2, 2006 Your losing top-end because of the cable-run. Easy way is to put a buffered pedal, Boss, MXR etc 1st in-line or build / buy a dedicated buffer. I built an AMZ Super Buffer in my loop box which is in the fx loop and 1st in-line infront of the amp is a SHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tayholliday Posted October 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 3, 2006 Your losing top-end because of the cable-run. Easy way is to put a buffered pedal, Boss, MXR etc 1st in-line or build / buy a dedicated buffer. Hmm. My first pedal is an MXR/CAE boost pedal which I use for soloing. Presumably that's buffered. The fx loop is pretty simple: MXR boost -> Boss DD-6 -> Ernie Ball volume pedal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tayholliday Posted October 3, 2006 Author Members Share Posted October 3, 2006 Are you sure. An effects loop is low impedance. There should be little to no noticable high frequency loss at all over that distance. Orange just replied. The effects loop send is actually high impedance, surprisingly. So I'll try a buffer at the very beginning of the loop. Hopefully that will work. Thanks all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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