Members Belt Posted March 2, 2009 Members Share Posted March 2, 2009 It's going after my pedal board / rack and before my amp... which would suit me better? thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belt Posted March 2, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 2, 2009 nobody wants to touch this one, huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MathiasWilliam Posted March 2, 2009 Members Share Posted March 2, 2009 I THINK, High Impedence is the one you want.... 50% chance i an right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members danut Posted March 2, 2009 Members Share Posted March 2, 2009 What do you want it for? Volume swells? Gain control? Silent tuning? Simple volume control? Depending on what you want, one would be recommended over the other. When placed after active (powered) effects, such as those on your pedalboard, it's gonna be a low impedance one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kyrreca Posted March 2, 2009 Members Share Posted March 2, 2009 Low impedance if it's after a buffer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members andreas Posted March 2, 2009 Members Share Posted March 2, 2009 High impedance will work wherever you place it - even first in line, with the guitar plugged straight in. Low impedance will only work if there's a buffered signal going into it, so you need to make sure the last pedal/effect before the volume pedal has a fully buffered low impedance output. The upside is that in its element, the low impedance volume pedal will have a smoother taper. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stspider Posted March 3, 2009 Members Share Posted March 3, 2009 High impedance will work wherever you place it - even first in line, with the guitar plugged straight in. Low impedance will only work if there's a buffered signal going into it, so you need to make sure the last pedal/effect before the volume pedal has a fully buffered low impedance output. The upside is that in its element, the low impedance volume pedal will have a smoother taper. Thanks, this actually helps me on a doubt I've been having. Cause I see lots of rigs at guitargeek with high impedence pedals after buffered stomps. I am going to get the Boss fv-500 H myself to go first in the chain and I wondered if I should worry about getting a radiojack sooner or later. Looks like I don't then, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members andreas Posted March 3, 2009 Members Share Posted March 3, 2009 Nah, the H model will work either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fly135 Posted March 3, 2009 Members Share Posted March 3, 2009 Here's something I wrote up about this issue.... I hear people occasionally ask whether they need an "Active" or "Passive" volume pedal. Here's the information you need to make that choice. First of all neither pedal is "active", but they have different resistance pots that makes them appropriate for placing after active or passive circuitry. A typical pot in an active pedal is 25K, versus a passive pedal of around 250-500K. If you are going to put the volume pedal after a guitar with passive pickups then you absolutely need the passive pedal. The passive pedal is more versatile because it can be placed after an active circuit as well. But the opposite is not true because an active pedal will suck the tone out of your passive pickups. However, if you plan to use a passive pedal in an active circuit it's important to know the input impedance of the device you are plugging the volume pedal into. Here's why.... A volume pedal works as a voltage divider. If the input resistance of the device plugged into the output of the pedal is high (like a pedal or amp input) then the sweep of the pedal is mostly dependent on the taper of the pot. If the input resistance is low then the load affects the sweep response. A high resistance volume pedal (i.e. passive) is affected more than a low resistance pedal (i.e. active) when plugged into a low impedance input. Active circuits that run at line level generally have a lower input impedance (in the 10K's of ohms) vs. passive circuits which have high input impedance (in the 100Ks or 1Ms of ohms). A passive pedal plugged into a low impedance input will have a sweep that kills the volume too fast. That's because as you sweep the pedal the resistance of the pot inside the pedal will rise quickly in relation to the resistance in the load. You can see if you have a 250K passive pedal plugged into a 25K input then the resistance ratio rises quickly when you sweep the pedal. An active pedal of 25K plugged into an input of 25K will sweep much more evenly. An example of somewhere a passive pedal would not work well is in some amp loops. Some amp loops run at instrument level and some at line level. If your amp runs at line level and has a low return impedance then you will want an active pedal. Some examples... Bulgera 333 FX return 470K - OK for passive pedal.Fender Hot Rod Deluxe FX return 57K - Passive pedal will give poor sweep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Belt Posted March 3, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 3, 2009 Here's something I wrote up about this issue....I hear people occasionally ask whether they need an "Active" or "Passive" volume pedal. Here's the information you need to make that choice. First of all neither pedal is "active", but they have different resistance pots that makes them appropriate for placing after active or passive circuitry. A typical pot in an active pedal is 25K, versus a passive pedal of around 250-500K.If you are going to put the volume pedal after a guitar with passive pickups then you absolutely need the passive pedal. The passive pedal is more versatile because it can be placed after an active circuit as well. But the opposite is not true because an active pedal will suck the tone out of your passive pickups. However, if you plan to use a passive pedal in an active circuit it's important to know the input impedance of the device you are plugging the volume pedal into. Here's why....A volume pedal works as a voltage divider. If the input resistance of the device plugged into the output of the pedal is high (like a pedal or amp input) then the sweep of the pedal is mostly dependent on the taper of the pot. If the input resistance is low then the load affects the sweep response. A high resistance volume pedal (i.e. passive) is affected more than a low resistance pedal (i.e. active) when plugged into a low impedance input. Active circuits that run at line level generally have a lower input impedance (in the 10K's of ohms) vs. passive circuits which have high input impedance (in the 100Ks or 1Ms of ohms).A passive pedal plugged into a low impedance input will have a sweep that kills the volume too fast. That's because as you sweep the pedal the resistance of the pot inside the pedal will rise quickly in relation to the resistance in the load. You can see if you have a 250K passive pedal plugged into a 25K input then the resistance ratio rises quickly when you sweep the pedal. An active pedal of 25K plugged into an input of 25K will sweep much more evenly.An example of somewhere a passive pedal would not work well is in some amp loops. Some amp loops run at instrument level and some at line level. If your amp runs at line level and has a low return impedance then you will want an active pedal.Some examples...Bulgera 333 FX return 470K - OK for passive pedal.Fender Hot Rod Deluxe FX return 57K - Passive pedal will give poor sweep very cool thanks for this!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members musikerochan Posted March 4, 2009 Members Share Posted March 4, 2009 hmm, interesting. but what does instrument level and line level actuall mean in guitar-speak? pardon the stupid question, but i guess HCFX can give me a more realistic and practical reply than googling it would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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