Members rlm297 Posted January 31, 2009 Members Share Posted January 31, 2009 I'm looking to do some recording and am looking for a great "rock and roll" drum machine. Preferably hardware, because I like pressing buttons and turning knobs. Any suggestions on what I should use to get convincing "living, breathing" acoustic drum sounds that sound natural and not synthetic? Maybe something similiar to what ZZ Top used on "Sharp Dressed Man"? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted January 31, 2009 Members Share Posted January 31, 2009 Get Addictive Drums. It's not hardware, but it's rocking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Julian Posted January 31, 2009 Members Share Posted January 31, 2009 Roland R8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted January 31, 2009 Members Share Posted January 31, 2009 Nah, no drum machine will give you the finesse you can get from 2 GB drum sample library. There are of course bigger libraries (Superior 2.0, BFD...), but I find Addictive Drums... really addictive. You can't get that kind of variety and tweakability from drum machines (unless you shell out $$$ for the new MPCs). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pilotwings Posted January 31, 2009 Members Share Posted January 31, 2009 I'm looking to do some recording and am looking for a great "rock and roll" drum machine.Preferably hardware, because I like pressing buttons and turning knobs.Any suggestions on what I should use to get convincing "living, breathing" acoustic drum sounds that sound natural and not synthetic?Maybe something similiar to what ZZ Top used on "Sharp Dressed Man"?Any suggestions would be appreciated. I would recommend an Akai MPC500 or MPC1000 for your needs because: 1. You're looking for a "hardware" drum machine2. You can use any sound you can sample yourself (or any sound you can get your hands on) The rest is up to you using creativity and programming skills. You'll eventually get bored with a non-sampling drum machine do to the fact that there will be only so many onboard sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unease Posted January 31, 2009 Members Share Posted January 31, 2009 One more vote for addictive drums! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cram1960 Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 Get Addictive Drums. It's not hardware, but it's rocking. +1 . Add a padKontrol or MPD for something to hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cygnus64 Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 Get Addictive Drums. It's not hardware, but it's rocking. Mr. EvilDragon has a very cool track where he used Addictive. I was impressed with the track and the drums: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32345510&postcount=825 EZDrummer has a good soundset. Its very limited as to editing, but it's a good solid sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members augerinn Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 Mr. EvilDragon has a very cool track where he used Addictive. I was impressed with the track and the drums:http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showpost.php?p=32345510&postcount=825EZDrummer has a good soundset. Its very limited as to editing, but it's a good solid sound. Is that PROG ?!?!?!?! I'z like da prog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 It's prog Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mediterranean Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 It's prog Wow evildragon, very rich composition -musically and synthly. Formidable amount of work to lay down those drums [realistic playability!], let alone the synth work. The short sequence starting at 02:09mn sounded freaking fantastic to my ears. I wish it had lasted longer to see how it would have evolved on its own. It was like taking candy away from a kid's mouth, but that was an excellent [and smart] musical tactic in a way: because the song is constantly evolving and very unpredictable, it keeps the listener hooked for its entirety. The choirs at 06:24mn sounded realistic and very JMJarrish! Know what this reminds me of? onboard demo songs on synths. I'm certain you would do a great job if you were approached by some synth maker. Consider exploring that route. And congrats:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 Hey thanks for the comments. Those are just my synth tracks I did, but the whole composition is made by the whole band, there are bassplayer's, guitarist's and singer's ideas in here. The whole track will go in studio and other instruments will be recorded. But our producer sucks and that track most certainly will lose half the synths I did, so remember this song by this one mp3 you hear The choirs at 06:24 are reinforced with strings and pipe organ, I aimed for "majestic" feel there. My fav part in the whole song is the moog lead, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 Alesis SR-16? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 Alesis SR-16? Oh come on, that one can't compete with AD. Sounds like plastic (checked on synthmania). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 He also said he wants hardware and NOT software. Which you guys seem to be pushing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members evildragon Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 He also said he wants to get "living, breathing sound", which SR-16 can't provide, sorry. AD can. Because it's plainly better. He also said "preferably" and not "definitely". He can get AD cheaply and a padKontrol to have some pads to hit when programming. It's a fairly affordable solution and the sound is topnotch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted February 1, 2009 Members Share Posted February 1, 2009 That's def a trade off. Easiness of a hardware drum machine, but not as realistic sounding. Far more realistic sounds a programming in software, but not as portable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cygnus64 Posted February 2, 2009 Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 He also said he wants hardware and NOT software. Preferably hardware:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members unease Posted February 2, 2009 Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 I have a song called Absinthe that uses AD exclusively for drums:http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_music.cfm?bandID=106764 The cool thing with AD is that you can do so much with the sound with the built in fx. You can really transform the nice clean samples with compression, distortion etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundwave106 Posted February 2, 2009 Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 Well, he also said that he wanted drums like those that you find on the Eliminator album. In which case, if one insists on hardware, I too would go with the Akai MPC solution. Because, if I recall, the ZZ Top Eliminator "drum machine" was really Frank Beard's drums sampled into a Fairlight CMI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members StompBoxLover Posted February 2, 2009 Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 I'm looking to do some recording and am looking for a great "rock and roll" drum machine. Preferably hardware, because I like pressing buttons and turning knobs. Any suggestions on what I should use to get convincing "living, breathing" acoustic drum sounds that sound natural and not synthetic? Maybe something similiar to what ZZ Top used on "Sharp Dressed Man"? Any suggestions would be appreciated. rock n' roll? check. Hardware? check. living and breathing? check. AD is great by the way. completely blows ezDrummer away. also very nice (especially for your ZZTop application) is Stylus RMX with Abe Laboriel's (see above) Burning Grooves S.A.G.E. expansion. http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/stylusrmx.html http://www.spectrasonics.net/instruments/xpanders/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members b3keys Posted February 2, 2009 Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 I was going to mention Stylus, but I thought it was more hip-hop oriented. Yes? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cram1960 Posted February 2, 2009 Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 I was going to mention Stylus, but I thought it was more hip-hop oriented. Yes? No? More like dance -y remix stuff (some old timey hip-hop, some downtempo, some faster dance stuff, some breakbeats) BUT you can buy REX loop libraries in any style, and convert them for use in Stylus RMX. Further, you can pull the individual hits out and recombine them to make your own kit. Plus you can make your own samples...slice them in Recycle...export as REX and use them in Stylus RMX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jjdugan3 Posted February 2, 2009 Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 In order of quality as far as software 1-Fxpansion BFD2-Addictive Drums3-EZdrummer4-Stylus....is dated,a bunch of loops thrown into a" Sage" engine and they still suck. I've tried them all.BFD is the best IMHO.Some find the size,detail and complexity a bit daunting,that's precisely why I find it to be the best Hardware is a matter of going down to Scam Cash or listening to Demo's online and choosing to taste. My TBD is sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cygnus64 Posted February 2, 2009 Members Share Posted February 2, 2009 It would be groovy if people posted tracks using the various drum software, we already have Evildragon's Addictive track. Here is one of mine with EZDrummer. Sugarplum Pretty straightforward, took about a half hour. I just grabbed some patterns and dropped them into a midi track. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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