Members manvspig Posted February 25, 2013 Members Share Posted February 25, 2013 I want to run one of these straight into the effects loop of my 6505+ to get a better clean tone. not a kinda distorted clean, more like a fender clean, though i won't be extreemly picky. i could get ok cleans out of my 6505+ but then i sacrifice using the rhythm channel as a bluesy somewhat distorted sound (which i think it does quite well actually), and i'm not using a low gain v1 tube because the lead channel looses balls, it sounds to compressed that way. so do you guys think the line 6 or mesa would do better for this? is the mesa v twin a really good pre amp for clean tones or is it more of an overdrive pedal? The line 6 effects would be a bonus, and well... everything the line 6 does is a bonus... BUT at this point i'm really just concerned with the ability to do really pretty clean tones out of one of these units. i know i should just try them but where do you find a mesa v twin haha. also my cabinet has 2 swamp thangs and 2 governors, i plugged in a line 6 spider to this cabinet and really liked the cleans so i'm not going to worry about my cabinet at all. this is the point where i stopped saying the 6505+ cleans aren't as bad as people say, because the line 6 cleans kicked it's ass. (but the 6505 is WAY better for the broken up sound)Sorry for the long post... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members vbshredder Posted February 25, 2013 Members Share Posted February 25, 2013 I can tell you i had a hell of a time dealing with hum and tone suck trying to integrate my pod xt pro into my 5150. Seemed like everything i tried (4CM, effects return) there was always something just not quite right. An internet search revealed alot of folks having trouble with the 5150 loop and noise. I ended up getting a separate power amp for the pod, so i now just use an a/b switch for the 5150 and pod. Which actually works out great, because i can use the pod for any tone, but still have the pure 5150 signal for distortion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members manvspig Posted February 25, 2013 Author Members Share Posted February 25, 2013 i plugged in a bass amp (behringer bxl3000 is the name i think) through the effects loop and it was way loud. after a while i moved the cables and the noise turned way down. the cable hated being ran above the head. but it was still really loud after that... i think it's because the amps a master volume and the pre gain is what controlls the effects loop volume. i had to have the pre gain volume all the way down cause i wasn't playing loud, with it that low i'd think i'm bound to get noise it's supposed to be probably half way up. and when i plug my guitar straight into the effects loop there isn't noise. kind of non conclusive but i'm thinking my effects loop will be fine as long as i keep the cable in the right spot. and if the floor pedal has low noise. if the noise of the pedal turns down with the pedal volume i should be good, otherwise it will probably be really noisy when i play quiet. i dunno... if i have to use a different amp for cleans i'll just use my line 6 2x12 and a a/b switch but that's way more weight then a pedal lol. a half stack takes up enough space as it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akapuli Posted February 26, 2013 Members Share Posted February 26, 2013 The Mesa V-Twin is a great pedal, you could use it as a preamp (bypass the whole Peavey and plug it into the line in/effect in if you have one) or like a plain dist box.Then you can have all your channels from the amp, plus 2 from the pedal. I would use the line 6 via effect loop, disable all the amp/cab sims and use only the effects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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