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Originally posted by macmax



no Skid, i still think we were lied upon, Iraq had nothing and nothing was found, it was a joke



if you are talking about the WMD's, while they did not find large quantities they did find remnants. But they also found terrorist training camps and it is no secret that Iraq actively supported numerous terrorist groups by giving them lots of $$$. Iraq was part of the problem. How long are we to turn a blind eye o nations like Iraq who cheer when terrorists kill and do their best to support them whether its with cash or by giving them safe haven? I am pretty sure Bush said that we would go after terrorists "and the nations that support them". What's the problem with that? I really don't care that they didn't find 100,000 barrels of Anthrax. Saddam was a danger to us and the world and now he isn't. And now we have a staging ground for the global war on terror. Better to fight them there than here, IMO.

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Originally posted by SkidMarx



if you are talking about the WMD's, while they did not find large quantities they did find remnants. But they also found terrorist training camps and it is no secret that Iraq actively supported numerous terrorist groups by giving them lots of $$$. Iraq was part of the problem. How long are we to turn a blind eye o nations like Iraq who cheer when terrorists kill and do their best to support them whether its with cash or by giving them safe haven? I am pretty sure Bush said that we would go after terrorists "and the nations that support them". What's the problem with that? I really don't care that they didn't find 100,000 barrels of Anthrax. Saddam was a danger to us and the world and now he isn't. And now we have a staging ground for the global war on terror. Better to fight them there than here, IMO.




You are still at it? :bor:

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Originally posted by draelyc



I'm just curious, Scott: what would the UN have to be like / to do (in general, not just in this situation) in order to be "useful"?


Chris



well, they would score a lot of points with me if they had the UN ambassador from Iraq by the back of his collar as they escorted him off the premises and out of my country. There is no place for a nation that has a president who leads "kill ALL the Jews" rallies. But as you can see, they have still done nothing. Oh, people did plenty of moaning, but they are still in the UN.

At this point, Chris, they will never be useful and should be dissolved. It is a waste of everyone's time. Didn't you learbn anything from the oil for food scandal? The place is full of corrupt, greedy fools who would get into bed with the liks of Saddam just to line their own pockets. Nothing is ever going to change, they can't be trusted. If they will not dissolve the organization then they should at least get out of my country. They do not deserve to stay. I'd say Helsinki would be a great place for them. Then we could take the UN building and renovate it into high priced luxury condo's rentable only to registered repuiblicans.

















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Saddamn and all those crappy countries over there are not a threat to the US. What are they going to do.. ..send a nuke over on a camel??


The ONLY reason they are a threat is because our country has the worst defense ever. We let EVERYONE in this country.


If we would have taken a defensive approach we would almost never have to go to war like we do.


The bottom line is that there are ALWAYS going to be terrorists and people out to get us....let's actually DO something to protect ourselves instead of pissing in the wind.


Protecting ourselves from terrorism by fighting in the middle east is about as effective as fighting venerial diseases with aspirin.....WEAR A RUBBER...IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT YOURSELF.

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Originally posted by SkidMarx



you're still reading the thread. Do you want me to call the police to get that guy who is pointing the gun at your head making you click the post? retard.
:rolleyes:



Yeah, please do call the police. When they answer, tell them you lost your mind...or you've fallen and you can't get up...or something, maybe they can help you!

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Originally posted by SkidMarx



well, they would score a lot of points with me if they had the UN ambassador from Iraq by the back of his collar as they escorted him off the premises and out of my country. There is no place for a nation that has a president who leads "kill ALL the Jews" rallies. But as you can see, they have still done nothing. Oh, people did plenty of moaning, but they are still in the UN.


At this point, Chris, they will never be useful and should be dissolved. It is a waste of everyone's time. Didn't you learbn anything from the oil for food scandal? The place is full of corrupt, greedy fools who would get into bed with the liks of Saddam just to line their own pockets. Nothing is ever going to change, they can't be trusted. If they will not dissolve the organization then they should at least get out of my country. They do not deserve to stay. I'd say Helsinki would be a great place for them.



Do you think there's any useful place in the world for *any* sort of pan-national organization made up of representatives from the various sovereign national governments?

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Originally posted by ranalli

Saddamn and all those crappy countries over there are not a threat to the US. What are they going to do.. ..send a nuke over on a camel??



The ONLY reason they are a threat is because our country has the worst defense ever. We let EVERYONE in this country.



If we would have taken a defensive approach we would almost never have to go to war like we do.



The bottom line is that there are ALWAYS going to be terrorists and people out to get us....let's actually DO something to protect ourselves instead of pissing in the wind.



Protecting ourselves from terrorism by fighting in the middle east is about as effective as fighting venerial diseases with aspirin.....WEAR A RUBBER...IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT YOURSELF.



"Bombing for peace is like {censored}ing for virginity."
(I don't know who said that, but it always stuck with me...)

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Originally posted by SkidMarx



if you are talking about the WMD's, while they did not find large quantities they did find remnants.... I really don't care that they didn't find 100,000 barrels of Anthrax....



As long as they keep selling it, there will be the idiots that keep eating it up. You are one of those idiots. Congrats!! :thu:

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Originally posted by ranalli

Saddamn and all those crappy countries over there are not a threat to the US. What are they going to do.. ..send a nuke over on a camel??



The ONLY reason they are a threat is because our country has the worst defense ever. We let EVERYONE in this country.



If we would have taken a defensive approach we would almost never have to go to war like we do.



The bottom line is that there are ALWAYS going to be terrorists and people out to get us....let's actually DO something to protect ourselves instead of pissing in the wind.



Protecting ourselves from terrorism by fighting in the middle east is about as effective as fighting venerial diseases with aspirin.....WEAR A RUBBER...IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PROTECT YOURSELF.



and what would you suggest? Are you talking about border security? If you are, well you can thank the dummycrats for our porous border. Any time someone suggests that we build a fence they start screaming racism. Any time someone suggest that we use troops to guard our border like many other countries do, they scream unconstitutional. If you are complaining about lax border security, blame the libs. They will do nothing to secure outr borders and in fact will actively work to keep them open, and are as we speak. Wanna' do something about that? Stop voting for dummycrats.

as far as them being no threat, what about the USS Cole? What about the Marines who were killed in Israel when their barracks were blown up? How about the embassy employees who were killed by muslim scum? Saddam, Al-Queda, Hezzbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc, etc, they are all part of the same problem. Are you saying that so long as they only kill over there that we should see them as "no threat" to the USA? Come on, man, what are you thinking?

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Originally posted by Japetus



Yeah, please do call the police. When they answer, tell them you lost your mind...or you've fallen and you can't get up...or something, maybe they can help you!



Go change your diaper, pal. How many f-ing times do you have to whine about this thread? You know what it's about, if you don't like it then don't read it! Are you daft? Geezus, what a {censored}ing retard.:rolleyes:

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SkidMarx, can you please make an original statement that you haven't already made 1000 times over?

Your posts could be good mad libs.


Liberals are the problem for _____. If it wasn't for democrats _____ would be way better.

Blah...Blah...Blah....just keep living in your partisan politics world, and us people living in the real world will look for real solutions to the real problems, other than regurgitating the same talking points over and over.

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Originally posted by SkidMarx



Go change your diaper, pal. How many f-ing times do you have to whine about this thread? You know what it's about, if you don't like it then don't read it! Are you daft? Geezus, what a {censored}ing retard.
:rolleyes:




You like to use the word retard, don't you? Poor SkidParents shouldn't have called you that so many times. But hey, if my kid ate as much lead as you obviously did, I would have too!

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Originally posted by draelyc



Do you think there's any useful place in the world for *any* sort of pan-national organization made up of representatives from the various sovereign national governments?



no. Why? Because you cannot erase greed and corruption. The UN and the charter they are supposed to enforce were a great fantasy. As was the League of Nations before them. Both are a complete and utter failure because of the fools that occupy the place. It was supposed to be the organization that prevented a repeat of Adolph Hitler. Instead, they allied themselves secretly with Islams' modern day Hitler for no other reason than MONEY. And they did it in secret and in violation of their own resolution. Why would we involve ourselves in such an organization?

The liberal in your longs for a world governing body, as with all liberals. It just ain't gonna happen because the interests and concerns of an African are vastly different than the interests and concerns of a European which are different from an American, and so forth and so on.. The standard of living will be vastly different, the intelligence level, the income and wealth, political agendas, all different across the globe. All that would happen if we did have a world governing body with REAL authority is just what happened at the UN. It would devolve into a place for the less fortunate nations to complain and use their vote to extort money from the more fortunate nations. And of course you'd have people the likes of Koffe Anon(spelling?) who used the UN Oil fo Food program to make himself, his family, and all his friends fabulously wealthy. Not to mention, they aided and abetted Iraq by funnelling illegal funds to the country. I repeat, why would we involve ourselves in such a pathetic organization?

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Originally posted by Japetus

SkidMarx, can you please make an original statement that you haven't already made 1000 times over?


Your posts could be good mad libs.



Liberals are the problem for _____. If it wasn't for democrats _____ would be way better.


Blah...Blah...Blah....just keep living in your partisan politics world, and us people living in the real world will look for real solutions to the real problems, other than regurgitating the same talking points over and over.



such as? When have you or any democrat offered a real solution to the worlds problems? If you have a better idea than fighting them, lets hear it. If not, you are just a blow hard talking out your ass. You may not like what I have tosay, but at least I have SOMETHING to say. All you can do is whine because you don't agree with me. Like I said, RETARD. Now's your chance to prove me wrong.

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Originally posted by Japetus




You like to use the word retard, don't you? Poor SkidParents shouldn't have called you that so many times. But hey, if my kid ate as much lead as you obviously did, I would have too!



I use words that apply. Like "retard" when I see your replies. Have you come up with a solution to the terrorism problem yet, retard? You said this: "us people living in the real world will look for real solutions to the real problems". Well, what's your solution, genius? It's your choice, genius or retard. Show us which one you are instead of whining about this thread. Because if that's all you are going to do then you are a retard. Gonna go for genius or leave it at that?

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Originally posted by SkidMarx



and what would you suggest? Are you talking about border security? If you are, well you can thank the dummycrats for our porous border. Any time someone suggests that we build a fence they start screaming racism. Any time someone suggest that we use troops to guard our border like many other countries do, they scream unconstitutional. If you are complaining about lax border security, blame the libs. They will do nothing to secure outr borders and in fact will actively work to keep them open, and are as we speak. Wanna' do something about that? Stop voting for dummycrats.


as far as them being no threat, what about the USS Cole? What about the Marines who were killed in Israel when their barracks were blown up? How about the embassy employees who were killed by muslim scum? Saddam, Al-Queda, Hezzbollah, Islamic Jihad, etc, etc, they are all part of the same problem. Are you saying that so long as they only kill over there that we should see them as "no threat" to the USA? Come on, man, what are you thinking?





The REPUBLICANS CONTROL THE GOVERNMENT. How you can keep blaming the Dems is beyond me. All the Republicans have done is suck this country dry since Bush got elected and have accomplished NOTHING despite the constant browbeating of the Dems...much like you do.


There are only two reasons that we have not been attacked again and that's due to local law enforcements stepping up with their own task forces and LUCK.


And when I say no threat I mean to the continental US...plain and simple. You can't expect people not to attack us in foreign lands....who would possibly think that?

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Originally posted by ranalli

There are only two reasons that we have not been attacked again and that's due to local law enforcements stepping up with their own task forces and LUCK.


Luck? What do you mean?

One thing I am curious about is why the videotaped beheadings suddenly stopped. Certainly those were effective in wearing down our "stomach" for this type of war. Anyone have any theories?

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Originally posted by SkidMarx



no. Why? Because you cannot erase greed and corruption. The UN and the charter they are supposed to enforce were a great fantasy. As was the League of Nations before them. Both are a complete and utter failure because of the fools that occupy the place. It was supposed to be the organization that prevented a repeat of Adolph Hitler. Instead, they allied themselves secretly with Islams' modern day Hitler for no other reason than MONEY. And they did it in secret and in violation of their own resolution. Why would we involve ourselves in such an organization?


The liberal in your longs for a world governing body, as with all liberals. It just ain't gonna happen because the interests and concerns of an African are vastly different than the interests and concerns of a European which are different from an American, and so forth and so on.. The standard of living will be vastly different, the intelligence level, the income and wealth, political agendas, all different across the globe. All that would happen if we did have a world governing body with REAL authority is just what happened at the UN. It would devolve into a place for the less fortunate nations to complain and use their vote to extort money from the more fortunate nations. And of course you'd have people the likes of Koffe Anon(spelling?) who used the UN Oil fo Food program to make himself, his family, and all his friends fabulously wealthy. Not to mention, they aided and abetted Iraq by funnelling illegal funds to the country. I repeat, why would we involve ourselves in such a pathetic organization?



That's what I thought. Thanks.

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