Members Jody Butt Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 This is my first post on Harmony Central. I am wondering how to get more gain/saturation/distortion/wetness/push/depth out of my Marshall MG100HDFX head. Could I stick an overdrive pedal in front of it? A tubescreamer? Another pedal or effect? I guess I would describe the sound right now as kind of dry. I have been playing for about 14 years, but I guess I'm still quite the noob when it comes to gear. I was hoping to get something similar to a Stryper sound . . . see this link . . . http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMQP3AR3re8&search=stryper Probably impossible, but any suggestions as to how I could get my sound a little closer to this would be really appreciated. Cheers everyone :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blues_rocker Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 easy...save some money, sell it, and buy a DSL or 800 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dinrodef Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 I wouldn't waste any money on pedals Your amp is solid state so most overdrive pedals etc are not no designed to help you If you're new to gear and stuff.... have you tweaked out your guitar?... tried different string brands and guages?... are your pickups at a good height? Small changes can make big differences.... your marshall head should be able to do that stryper sound no problem if your guitar is setup right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jody Butt Posted February 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by blues_rocker easy...save some money, sell it, and buy a DSL or 800 True. That is what I should do, most likely. I guess I'm trying to make the best of things with this current rig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -=MYK=- Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Get something like a Digitech Bad Monkey pedal. They are cheap, and they work well for using them as an overdrive, or a clean boost kind of pedal. Set the gain super low at first, set the level, or output knob all the way up, then just increase the gain knob til you've got enough gain. If you use too much boost then the preamp will get really noisy, and will feedback when you play at louder volumes, so you have to balance it. Most Tubescreamers will work just as good, but the digitech unit is just a lot cheaper:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-Type Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 A eq in that amps loop may improve you a bit but really any more drive through the front would probably sound worse. A better amp upgrade would be the best. IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rich Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 These amps have a ton of gain. This thread is retarded. You may be seeking compression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jody Butt Posted February 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 I also have a Boss GE-7 equalizer. I have not tried it with the Marshall head yet. (I pick up my head from my nephew tomorrow. I have been letting him play around with it for a while). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jody Butt Posted February 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by Rich These amps have a ton of gain. This thread is retarded. You may be seeking compression. Okay, maybe compression, then. Sorry, I wasn't quite sure how to describe what I was looking for. I have a Boss Compression Sustainer. Unfortunately, after taking it out of storage just recently, I found that it doesn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-Type Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by Jody Butt I also have a Boss GE-7 equalizer. I have not tried it with the Marshall head yet. (I pick up my head from my nephew tomorrow. I have been letting him play around with it for a while). Yeah give that a shot and maybe a dirt in front like suggested above or even a modeler of some type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members -=MYK=- Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by Jody Butt I also have a Boss GE-7 equalizer. I have not tried it with the Marshall head yet. (I pick up my head from my nephew tomorrow. I have been letting him play around with it for a while). Just set it up like, guitar - cable - eq pedal - cable - amp. Set the EQ flat, or with a mid boost shape(something like a unhappy face), and raise and lower the level slider til you get the effect you need. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jody Butt Posted February 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 In this link, you can see that they are using Marshall heads. I can't pick out what head, though. Would anyone hazard a guess? On one of the heads I see two rows of knobs. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXq0Uj8mE4w&search=stryper Could anyone else comment on the suitability of a Compression device in this case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneHappyPappy Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Actually Oz Fox who is an awesome guitar player played thru Mesa's with an EQ boosting the mids or something like that, I think they were the Mark IIC or III's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jody Butt Posted February 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by OneHappyPappy Actually Oz Fox who is an awesome guitar player played thru Mesa's with an EQ boosting the mids or something like that, I think they were the Mark IIC or III's. Man, would I ever love to have one of those IICs. It's like tight crunch heaven. Didn't Metallica also use the IICs during ...And Justice For All? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members blues_rocker Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by Jody Butt In this link, you can see that they are using Marshall heads. I can't pick out what head, though.Would anyone hazard a guess? On one of the heads I see two rows of knobs.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXq0Uj8mE4w&search=stryperCould anyone else comment on the suitability of a Compression device in this case? definitly a newer model...maybe an 800 or silver jubilee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jody Butt Posted February 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Maybe I should just e-mail Michael and/or Oz and get the skinny on their exact setup, and what other gear they have used to get similar sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneHappyPappy Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 For those Marshalls just pop that eq thru the loop and raise the EQ's for the 1.6 K ans the 800K, maybe a suppressor would help too.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members CyanideChrist Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by blues_rocker easy...save some money, sell it and check out the 8100/8200 series. You can get an 8200 for about 250-350 used. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jody Butt Posted February 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by OneHappyPappy For those Marshalls just pop that eq thru the loop and raise the EQ's for the 1.6 K ans the 800K, maybe a suppressor would help too.. Thanks, I will try that. Do you think I would need a noise supressor too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneHappyPappy Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 did i say suppressor i meant compressor, those mg's can get a little thin at high volumes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jody Butt Posted February 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by OneHappyPappy did i say suppressor i meant compressor, those mg's can get a little thin at high volumes Okay. Thanks. Can you recommend a good compressor? Where should I put it? Before the amp, or in the loop? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OneHappyPappy Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Boss makes a pretty good one, I had a friend who used an Alesis rack mount that was pretty nice too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cap'n'crunch Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by dinrodef I wouldn't waste any money on pedalsYour amp is solid state so most overdrive pedals etc are not no designed to help you Boosting with an OD can work equally as well for SS. However, boosting any amp that already has a ton of gain might be too much and cause a great deal of definition loss and noise. To the original poster: For a different flavor try turning the amps gain down a bit then boost it back up with an OD pedal. In some cases this can sound better and tighter then just cranking the amps gain knob up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members paul6string Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Sell your MG, pocket the money you would have otherwise spent on a booster, compressor, and so and get a DSL head. It's got plenty of gain, the Marshall sound, and can get compressed when you crank up the volume a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members nrarocks Posted February 26, 2006 Members Share Posted February 26, 2006 Originally posted by paul6string Sell your MG, pocket the money you would have otherwise spent on a booster, compressor, and so and get a DSL head. It's got plenty of gain, the Marshall sound, and can get compressed when you crank up the volume a bit. That is exactly what I did. I would sell it and save your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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