Journey to the Center of the Earth

[iphoenix]

Auto-tune.

 

I think it was originally 'punk-rock', but yeah I almost replied to myself- 'autotune' . Johnny Rotten & his contempories hated 'prog rock' & it was fashionable to hate prog rock at the end of the 70s & early 80s, & I personally liked as much 'punk' as I did the other genre, but music just has to be 'good' & interesting for me.. I dont care what the genre is.

I think the computer/ sequencer in general helped kill the grandious vision of really good progressive rock. ( as well as fashions of the time including punk).

[tspit74]

Maybe what killed progressive rock was the capes and songs about battling dragons, people turning into hermaphrodites after entering a certain fountain, and 20 minute epics about half tank/half armadillo creatures who start wars. As much as I love prog, it couldn't last. Not that anything's replaced it.

 

I think what's killed music over the past 10 years is digital compression and the lack of dynamics. We have the technology for music to sound better than ever. Unfortunately, it's all just horribly unlistenable now. I can't speak for anybody else, but I require light and shade in music. LOUD and aggressive doesn't mean squat without beauty and reflection. It's hard to do that with one dynamic, digital clipping, and EQ that could chop your head off.

 

Thank god I never got rid of my turntable. Tonight, I'll cue up my nice 200 gram, Mobile Fidelity LP of Journey to the Center of the Earth, with it's nice 12"x12" gatefold cover and booklet, on a nice Rega turntable and integrated tube amp, and enjoy something rare in this day and age: Music.

 

Now where's my cape...

[liliththekitten]

Johnny wore an "I Hate Pink Floyd" shirt to start trouble/attention but he was a huge fan of Krautrock and probably other bands that would fall under the prog banner. He's since said he doesnt hate Pink Floyd and never really did ("Hating Pink Floyd is like hating bunnies") and is friends with David Gilmour - personally I'd like to think he changed his mind as Floyd is all downhill after "Wish You Were Here" for me. Lydon got to make the arty/kraut-influenced music he really wanted to with PiL.

 

In his monologue about the Ramones, Jello Biafra talked about he and his friends doing bong hits and listening to the Ramones instead of "psychedelic or progressive rock but not Yes or any of that crap" like they usually did.

 

I think punk was mainly a reaction against the excesses and pretensions of 70's mainstream rock - punks made room for stuff they liked, liked AC/DC or Bowie - so I guess prog got a lot of the crap from them. Punks also had contradictory and ambiguous relations to 50s/60s rock.

[iphoenix]

 

I think what's killed music over the past 10 years is digital compression and the lack of dynamics. We have the technology for music to sound better than ever. Unfortunately, it's all just horribly unlistenable now. I can't speak for anybody else, but I require light and shade in music. LOUD and aggressive doesn't mean squat without beauty and reflection. It's hard to do that with one dynamic, digital clipping, and EQ that could chop your head off. Now where's my cape...

 

 

Re: what "killed music"

I totally agree with you there & also the 'mass media' plague..all the bland commercialism of music. Music as a product , a business rather than art or vision.

All the super hyped over- produced & over -compressed ( & autotuned) blandness that is called music.

[iphoenix]

 

Johnny wore an "I Hate Pink Floyd" shirt to start trouble/attention but he was a huge fan of Krautrock and probably other bands that would fall under the prog banner. He's since said he doesnt hate Pink Floyd and never really did ("Hating Pink Floyd is like hating bunnies") and is friends with David Gilmour - personally I'd like to think he changed his mind as Floyd is all downhill after "Wish You Were Here" for me. Lydon got to make the arty/kraut-influenced music he really wanted to with PiL. .

 

 

PIL were great ,I saw them in Leister on their 2nd PIL album tour ( 1987?) Johnny warned the audience that if anyone spat / spit they would walk off the stage. Jah Wobble was on bass duty & they had 2 Prophet 2000s on stage. I was most impressed. I heard them live last summer doing all their classics & even some 'Pistols' songs & they sounded as good as ever. Johnny was just as caustic in his humour & cool as f**k, & sharply challenging the political rhetoric & lies & the church & priests etc in between songs. it was like being in a time warp. Like the 80s. & He doesnt seem to have aged at all.

'Animals' was always my fav PF album, but also loved all the others ( naturally) back from Animals to 'Piper'. Atom H M has always been a fav too. didnt like any of their stuff after Animals.