Members cool_E Posted July 1, 2002 Members Share Posted July 1, 2002 I'll summarize this chapter by saying "Cliches are BAD!" Pat does a nice description of a guitar player (I'm suremost here can relate to that) stringing together riffsfrom Jimmy Page, Jimi Hendriz, Stevie Ray Vaughn, etc...He ends up with a good solo, BUT IT'S NOT HIS! Pat then lists ~ 100 overused cliches way down deep insidehand in handface to faceby my sidegotta take a chancesee the lightend of the line... Pat also lists cliche rhymes and says that most clicherhymes are perfect rhymes. Pat also lists cliche imagesand cliche metaphore. The net is that we are erged to be creative and original.Pat says cliches can be useful in the writing processas place holders for something better. But get rid of thembefore the final version. Pat says that cliches can be used effectively in a song lyricif thier use in the song makes us look at the cliche in a new way, or gives the cliche a new meaning. --------------------------------------------------- The exercise: Come up with your own list of cliches, do as many as you can.Now write a lyric by stringing cliches together. Please don'tuse an old lyric, do something new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BryanMichael Posted July 1, 2002 Members Share Posted July 1, 2002 I really loved this book-It is the best book I've ever read on songwriting!All of the others seemed to concentrate on CREATING cliches...But, as a warning-Sometimes cliches are just exactly what is needed to complete a phrase, so ruling them out entirely is kind of counterproductive-But I agree that the exercises in this book will help anyone. Any detractors should at least TRY this book(get it from the local library). Peace,Bryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hack Posted July 2, 2002 Members Share Posted July 2, 2002 Cool_E,I have been reading a lot of your postings over the past couple of days. These lessons are quite interesting. But I haven't been able to determine the source in your postings. Is the title kept a secret or can you share? Don't get me wrong, I enjoy reading your synopsis which is probably easier than reading the book. I'm sure there are other people, new to this forum, like myself who are wondering.Thanks again,Hack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cool_E Posted July 2, 2002 Author Members Share Posted July 2, 2002 Sorry Hack, I should re-post the book title with eachlesson. The book I'm following is Writing Better Lyrics by Pat Pattison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rickenvox Posted July 2, 2002 Members Share Posted July 2, 2002 Avoiding cliches assumes you have something really unique to say to begin with. I agree with Solomon that there's nothing new under the sun, only variations on the same theme. Light use of well-known phrases can give the impression of familiarity. Those who can publish songs do, and those who can't write books about songwriting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members hack Posted July 3, 2002 Members Share Posted July 3, 2002 Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cool_E Posted July 3, 2002 Author Members Share Posted July 3, 2002 I want to walk hand in hand with you into the sunset and look into your eyes And tell you everything's all right You're my one and only You're my one true love Our two hearts beat as one With you I soar above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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