Members Wizard of Ozz Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Tone wise, I'm looking for something that can get me a good punchy tone when i tune to c standard or drop the c like drop d tuning. Band influences are Mastodon, Deftones, Stone Temple Pilots, Incubus, and Soundgarden. I know they don't all use the same amp but I'm looking for what would give me a ballpark sound for all. I was considering the AC30 because I know Dean from STP uses them and he's got a really good tone. I just don't know if it would work for some of the heavier stuff though. I'm also looking at a Mesa Tremoverb. I don't want "drown out the drummer" loud but if that's what I have to do to get good tone, so be it. Based on this, skip the AC30 and get the Marshall 2203 or a Mesa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dropthisd Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Not sure how convincing the AC30 would be for metal but I'm sure its capable. The AC100 clean channel into H&K Warp Factor pedal is one of my favorite hi gain tones. Check out some Vox AC clips in my sig. The AC100 clean thru a H&K warp factor pedal easily cops metal tones including drop D and detuned. Without a pedal its a different story. The H&K Warp Factor is a great match with the AC100. Using the hi gain channel yeilds different results and can be frustrating depending on speakers, cabs, pickups, etc. On the clean channel the bass and presence need a different appraoch compared to a marshall or mesa. The Vox's Tone Cut knob interacts with presence and bass in a way that it may be easy to dial in to much fizz. Overall it has a petty broad sweet spots. Nowadays a used AC100 and 50 can be picked up for about $500. The clean channel is very good on its own. The amp definitely benefits from swapping out the stock el34s in favor of SED winged C. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members humancertainty Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 I think you would ultimately be happier with the 800. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spoonie g Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Not sure how convincing the AC30 would be for metal but I'm sure its capable. The AC100 clean channel into H&K Warp Factor pedal is one of my favorite hi gain tones. Check out some Vox AC clips in my sig. The AC100 clean thru a H&K warp factor pedal easily cops metal tones including drop D and detuned. Without a pedal its a different story. The H&K Warp Factor is a great match with the AC100. Using the hi gain channel yeilds different results and can be frustrating depending on speakers, cabs, pickups, etc. On the clean channel the bass and presence need a different appraoch compared to a marshall or mesa. The Vox's Tone Cut knob interacts with presence and bass in a way that it may be easy to dial in to much fizz. Overall it has a petty broad sweet spots. Nowadays a used AC100 and 50 can be picked up for about $500. The clean channel is very good on its own. The amp definitely benefits from swapping out the stock el34s in favor of SED winged C. ...but that doesn't sound anything like an ac-30. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members riklite Posted February 10, 2010 Author Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 I'm just gonna roll with the Mesa/Boogie Tremoverb combo. It seems to be pretty versatile and should cover the bases pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dropthisd Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 ...but that doesn't sound anything like an ac-30. The AC100 with the H&K sounds more suited to what he described and its part of the Vox product line. Maybe the AC30 cops metal toanz but I haven't heard anybody post up any clips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carvinlegacy99 Posted February 10, 2010 Members Share Posted February 10, 2010 Sure, just crank it and put an overdrive in front. You can control the tightness and final eq /w speaker selection. Fully cranked, the tone will be full and warm and will cut through better than any master vol. amp. It won't have tons of low bass frequecies, but that is what a bass guitar/drum is for anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jackaroo Posted July 28, 2020 Members Share Posted July 28, 2020 On 2/9/2010 at 6:45 PM, blargh said: Give it a go, see what happens. Don't know why so many players use the same {censored}ing tones metal guitarists have been using for 20 years now, maybe metal wouldn't be so {censored}ing stagnant if people tried playing it on AC30s. I just bought an AC10 for bedroom practice and I run an MT-2 With low distortion or a Sabbra Cadabra into it and get some beautiful sparkly metal tones that I don’t hear in common metal. I completely agree with you that everyone jumps to the same gear for a certain sound instead of coming up with their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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