Members Wayne2 Posted October 15, 2012 Members Share Posted October 15, 2012 Hello I just got a Zoom G3X and thought what could possibly be more interesting to everyone than me recording some random noodling through the V8 preamp into the Zoom? I made one track dry and the rest with the FD Combo (Fender Twin) model.http://soundcloud.com/wayne2/sets/cr...mino-v8-preamp In other news I think I'm beginning to dislike the V8 poweramp, or that maybe it does need a front-mounted alnico speaker to shine as I haven't really found a way to be happy with it. Just seems kind of stiff and middy even with speakers and with different preamps feeding it. Maybe the tube is beginning to change. I don't know. I'm not sure it always sounded like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Verne Andru Posted October 16, 2012 Author Members Share Posted October 16, 2012 The V8 has a 10" speaker and a cabinet barely big enough to hold it and the electronics. Since there is very little "cabinet sound" coming through the speaker has to carry 100% of the load. But even with a 100% efficient speaker [which doesn't exist] the V8 will never sound as "big" as a properly designed big cabinet with air around the speaker. By way of contrast, I have a little Takt amp from the 60's with a 6" speaker that sounds huge. The difference is there is a lot of cabinet and air around the speaker allowing it to breath and sound more like a really nice 12" than a 3 watt 6". By way of experiment, try plugging your V8 into a 4x12 cabinet and see if you still don't like the V8 poweramp. I run my V8 through 2 really nice 10" speakers in separate V8 cabinets. I like that setup because I can spread the speakers apart which gives me a really big, full and throaty sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wayne2 Posted October 16, 2012 Members Share Posted October 16, 2012 Originally Posted by Verne Andru The V8 has a 10" speaker and a cabinet barely big enough to hold it and the electronics. Since there is very little "cabinet sound" coming through the speaker has to carry 100% of the load. But even with a 100% efficient speaker [which doesn't exist] the V8 will never sound as "big" as a properly designed big cabinet with air around the speaker. By way of contrast, I have a little Takt amp from the 60's with a 6" speaker that sounds huge. The difference is there is a lot of cabinet and air around the speaker allowing it to breath and sound more like a really nice 12" than a 3 watt 6".By way of experiment, try plugging your V8 into a 4x12 cabinet and see if you still don't like the V8 poweramp. I run my V8 through 2 really nice 10" speakers in separate V8 cabinets. I like that setup because I can spread the speakers apart which gives me a really big, full and throaty sound. I've been wanting to do that forever but I don't have any other cabinets and haven't gotten around to buying one. I did once run the Crate in parallel with the Lil Buddy in my Champion 110 and it sounded better. Been thinking about getting some Cannabis Rexes in a 2 x 12" cabinet since I like the Lil Buddy so much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FinkBrau Posted December 8, 2012 Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Hello guys, Can anybody tell me the output values of the power transformer? I'd like to replace it but I can't find the info anywhere... Thanks a lot, Pierre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Verne Andru Posted December 8, 2012 Author Members Share Posted December 8, 2012 Hey Pierre - welcome to the forum. You could try emailing technical support over at Loud/Crate. I've found them to always be very helpful in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FinkBrau Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 I have already, unfortunately they can't give me the characteristics of the power transformer... I guess some people here that modded their amp should have an idea about the PCB input values? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wayne2 Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Originally Posted by FinkBrau I have already, unfortunately they can't give me the characteristics of the power transformer...I guess some people here that modded their amp should have an idea about the PCB input values? There's a high resolution pic of the board here, if that's any help. The schematic is somewhere earlier in this thread. I think Verne has it on his site. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FinkBrau Posted December 14, 2012 Members Share Posted December 14, 2012 Thanks! But I have the board, and all the schematics/parts list, etc. from Loud tech already. That doesn't help much, unfortunately... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wayne2 Posted December 17, 2012 Members Share Posted December 17, 2012 I tried a 12AY7 from Electro-Harmonix tonight. It wasn't really all that interesting. The tube itself is nice but it pretty much sounds like the 12AX7 but with less gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wayne2 Posted December 27, 2012 Members Share Posted December 27, 2012 I just noticed a USA-made V8 on Ebay for $125 Buy It Now. It could be a good deal for someone looking to try some of this stuff, or who wants a spare V8. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Wayne2 Posted March 4, 2013 Members Share Posted March 4, 2013 For a change I went back to the original Palomino speaker and Groove Tubes. Hey ! I think for this cabinet the stock speaker is actually very well matched. I'm going strat --> MXR 10 band --> effect in and loving the sound. Real nice warm clean. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Verne Andru Posted July 17, 2015 Author Members Share Posted July 17, 2015 ** Edit Jul 2015 ** I see this thread has become pretty mangled with big chunks missing so I built a summary page on my site - http://www.VerneAndru.com - click the Supercharged V8 link. You should be able to find the link in the Music section as well.** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members V-8 Posted July 18, 2015 Members Share Posted July 18, 2015 I recall this thread now. Back in the day, I was wondering why people were going nuts over Crates. Since then, I've test driven a V32 (used) and it was pretty cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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