Members ninelives1980 Posted October 25, 2005 Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 the types and what they are favored for? another thing is, for extreme playing abuse on the tremolo, which one can bear the hardships the most? (in keeping the tunings, etc.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members themusicdude Posted October 25, 2005 Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 if it's abuse you want an original floyd or and edge copy. -am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninelives1980 Posted October 25, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 Originally posted by themusicdude if it's abuse you want an original floyd or and edge copy. -am on floyd rose as mentioned above, is there any manufacturer that produces a better floyd as compared to the other floyds? what's this edge copy? have not come across this as yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prages Posted October 25, 2005 Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 Originally posted by ninelives1980 on floyd rose as mentioned above, is there any manufacturer that produces a better floyd as compared to the other floyds?what's this edge copy? have not come across this as yet Original Floyd Rose or Ibanez Edge are often touted as the best on the market. I have an OFR and it is indeed a very nice tremolo. I've never really played an Ibanez Edge. Schaller also makes a pretty good Floyd Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A-Train Posted October 25, 2005 Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 Edge Pro. It's Ibanez's version of the Floyd Rose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Koz Posted October 25, 2005 Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 Originally posted by ninelives1980 on floyd rose as mentioned above, is there any manufacturer that produces a better floyd as compared to the other floyds?what's this edge copy? have not come across this as yet Edge trems are Ibanez floyd copies with their improvements. Most people will tell you that the original Floyd is the way to go...Schaller produced a floyd that is also supposed to be good too.Here's a thread that I searched for that might help: http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=1040274&highlight=floyd+comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninelives1980 Posted October 25, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 so, is there edge and edge pro we're talkin' here, or is it that someone here is referring to the same thing? mmmm.....by the way y'all sound, how does the edge compares to the original floyd rose then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninelives1980 Posted October 25, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 someone do help me! there's so many tremolos as produced by Ibanez; not sure what are their pros and cons though infos on their features could be found. and another thing is, having a tremolo installed on an electric guitar; would it really make retuning difficult? like if I'm playing on standard E and to retune it to drop C for example. For years, I have only played fixed bridge ; so bear with me what's the latest tremolo from Ibanez anyways? Is it the 'ZR Tremolo'? Opinions on this for someone searching for a tremolo like me perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Prages Posted October 25, 2005 Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 I can't help you with the differences between the Ibanez tremolos, but any floating tremolo is going to make going from E to drop C a nightmare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oYx Posted October 25, 2005 Members Share Posted October 25, 2005 agreed. if you are going to do a lot of tuning changes, avoid the floyd at all cost. the ZR is one of the best trems i've tried. very smooth is all i can say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninelives1980 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 26, 2005 in fact, the retuning problem happens with all types of tremolos out there, isn't it? what's the deal with the floating tremolo actually? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Ross82 Posted October 26, 2005 Members Share Posted October 26, 2005 I would say the Original Floyd Rose is the best, Ibanez Edge Pro is the best of the imitators, with Schaller liscenced ones after that. A floating tremolo is one which is balanced on two pivot posts so that the unit is not sitting on the guitar body like a standard Fender trem does. This enables pitch pull and push in both directions (provided you have enough space routed out behind the trem for the clamp screws) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninelives1980 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 26, 2005 Originally posted by oYx agreed. if you are going to do a lot of tuning changes, avoid the floyd at all cost.the ZR is one of the best trems i've tried. very smooth is all i can say. 1. by floyd, you mean generally all tremolos? 2. one basic question here; how does one retune an electric guitar with tremolo? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninelives1980 Posted October 26, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 26, 2005 and, what are the other types of tremolos available besides, original floyd rose, ibanez' tremolos, schaller's, wilkinson, bigsby? if anyone do know their pros and cons, it'll be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members croninburg Posted October 26, 2005 Members Share Posted October 26, 2005 Jeff Hanneman of Slayer uses either Kahler or Shaller licensed Floyds, if they'll stay in tune for him they'll stay in tune for anyone! Unfortunately I have never played one. When I'm in the money I'm going to replace the trem on my Washburn Dime 2ST becasue the cheap Washburn lic. Floyd bridges suck and won't stay in tune for even one of those trademark Dimebag natural harmonic pull-ups (having said that, I don't know who invented this technique). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Renato Posted October 26, 2005 Members Share Posted October 26, 2005 floating tremolos will allow you to raise or lower the pitch, wich will let you do more tricks. a good floating tremolo has a good tunning stability as long as you don't change the tunning or the string gauge. that's because the floating tremolo is not fixed to anything, it will have strings pushing to one side and a set of springs to another. anything that changes this, like when a string breaks, will detune all the remaing strings. to be able to change (not dramatically) tunnings or keeping the tunning when a string breaks, you'll have to have a tremolo that will settle against anything, like the guitar body. some people will change a floating for dive-only with, say, a block of wood that will keep the tremolo from going back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oYx Posted October 27, 2005 Members Share Posted October 27, 2005 Originally posted by ninelives1980 1. by floyd, you mean generally all tremolos? oops, i'm too used to calling a floating trem a floyd! i'm not sure if all sorts of floating trem have that difficulty with tuning changes. i know that with the parker fly trem, you can scroll a wheel to lock it into fixed position so that you can get it into a fixed position easily. i've only had a parker nitefly before, and it didn't have a wheel. i doubt you can just drop in a parker fly trem in any other guitar though, but i may be wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninelives1980 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 27, 2005 gosh, i'm a lil' or very much confused here....! anyways, by the way y'all mentioned on floating tremolos; just being curios what are the other types that falls into the category 'non floating'? how does floating tremolos compare to 'non-floating' ones? it's being mentioned in one of the posts above that the fender trem is non-floating; is this referring to the vintage fender trem which originated like in the 50s or something? zr tremolo seemed to be the most advanced technology right now for ibanez as compared to all the versions of edge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members georges Posted October 27, 2005 Members Share Posted October 27, 2005 Originally posted by ninelives1980 gosh, i'm a lil' or very much confused here....!anyways, by the way y'all mentioned on floating tremolos; just being curios what are the other types that falls into the category 'non floating'?how does floating tremolos compare to 'non-floating' ones?it's being mentioned in one of the posts above that the fender trem is non-floating; is this referring to the vintage fender trem which originated like in the 50s or something?zr tremolo seemed to be the most advanced technology right now for ibanez as compared to all the versions of edge. If you want you can go the Van Halen route and stick a load of pennies(or anything solid) under the trem so that it has something to rest against. This means you can't raise the pitch, but you should be able to change tunings much easier(it won't pull it back to standard when you detune) and if you snap a string the others won't go sharp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted October 27, 2005 Members Share Posted October 27, 2005 there's actually quite a few. personally, i have a fulltone supa-trem because it provides the most versatility, and i think it sounds the best (others differ in this opinion). the danelectro tuna melt is suprisingly good for the cost, and lots of people like the EHX Pulsar, though it's kinda big. other popular favorites are the keeley modded BOSS TR-2, the demeter tremulator, and the z'vex seek trem (a very weird effect). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ninelives1980 Posted October 27, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 27, 2005 Originally posted by Help!I'maRock! there's actually quite a few. personally, i have a fulltone supa-trem because it provides the most versatility, and i think it sounds the best (others differ in this opinion). the danelectro tuna melt is suprisingly good for the cost, and lots of people like the EHX Pulsar, though it's kinda big. other popular favorites are the keeley modded BOSS TR-2, the demeter tremulator, and the z'vex seek trem (a very weird effect). mmmm....nope, ain't talkin' about that kinda tremolo. talkin' on guitar's tremolo bars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members A_Gitarman Posted October 27, 2005 Members Share Posted October 27, 2005 Originally posted by ninelives1980 gosh, i'm a lil' or very much confused here....! anyways, by the way y'all mentioned on floating tremolos; just being curios what are the other types that falls into the category 'non floating'? how does floating tremolos compare to 'non-floating' ones? it's being mentioned in one of the posts above that the fender trem is non-floating; is this referring to the vintage fender trem which originated like in the 50s or something? This site : electricguitar.50megs.com used to have a page that answers all of your questions. Unfortunately, it seems to have been taken down. To answer some of your questions: Basically, a 'non-floating' trem is one that butts up against the guitar body which only allows 'dive-bomb' or downward motion. A 'floating' trem is any that uses a pivot point and allows both upward and downward motion, ala Floyd Rose. A 'classic' 6-screw Fender trem is normally regarded as non-floating as most people set it to rest flush against the body. However, it is possible to set one up to float by loosening the spings and making a few minor tweaks (only allows a slight raise in pitch, though). 'Floating', Classic-style tremolo: 'Non-floating', classic tremolo: Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Help!I'maRock! Posted October 27, 2005 Members Share Posted October 27, 2005 Originally posted by ninelives1980 mmmm....nope, ain't talkin' about that kinda tremolo. talkin' on guitar's tremolo bars. those are called vibratos, as in "bigsby vibrato". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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