Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted May 26, 2006 Moderators Share Posted May 26, 2006 I'm just coming to the end of learning this piece, but there's a few subtleties in the tone. If you're familiar with the piece, on the higher notes there's a little bit of break up or borderline distortion. Any of you can replicate this piece, I wouldn't mind a few tips. I'm presuming that maybe the majority of its is playted just below break up with a pedal tweak to just drive the amp slightly into distortion. Thank you:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Europa760 Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 i would try playing with overdrive and play most of the song with volume rolled off. and for the louder, gainier parts, roll on some volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeeMoore Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Europa760 i would try playing with overdrive and play most of the song with volume rolled off. and for the louder, gainier parts, roll on some volume. Thread hijack !! Europa, you still likin' your Deluxe reissue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Europa760 Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by SeeMoore Thread hijack !!Europa, you still likin' your Deluxe reissue? you better believe it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Fosse Fox I'm just coming to the end of learning this piece, but there's a few subtleties in the tone. If you're familiar with the piece, on the higher notes there's a little bit of break up or borderline distortion. Any of you can replicate this piece, I wouldn't mind a few tips.I'm presuming that maybe the majority of its is playted just below break up with a pedal tweak to just drive the amp slightly into distortion.Thank you:D Back when that was recorded, there really weren't pedals like there are today. Sounds to me like it's all done straight in. Any dynamics are just coming from the volume knob on his guitar and his fingers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by GCDEF Back when that was recorded, there really weren't pedals like there are today. Sounds to me like it's all done straight in. Any dynamics are just coming from the volume knob on his guitar and his fingers. yeah agreed. might be able to sim it with the above suggestions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted May 26, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Frets99 yeah agreed. might be able to sim it with the above suggestions. Indeed eventually managed to find that his first pedal was a Mutron wah but bought about early to mid 70s. I'm playing this piece at my wifes niece's wedding in August along with a few others, but haven't played in front of an audience since I was 19, 24 year ago:cry: Maybe I could have picked some 12 bar blues? Still only 800 people:cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted May 26, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Frets99 yeah agreed.might be able to sim it with the above suggestions. Okeydokey....what did he play then....guitar wise......although my intention was to play it on a LP, I've been eeking it out on a Strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frets99 Posted May 26, 2006 Share Posted May 26, 2006 Get these guys to help you!!I'm playing acoustically at a wedding in July. Normally, I don't mind playing but something about the weddingness of it all...Weddings are talked about forever... and ever. The idea that " And do you remember that guitarist... OMG, what was he on??? " dissolves into hysterical laughter... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted May 26, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Frets99 The idea that " And do you remember that guitarist... OMG, what was he on??? " dissolves into hysterical laughter... I hadn't thought of that:cry: I can feel a Keith finger stabbing episode comin on:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mangojeep66 Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Fosse Fox Okeydokey....what did he play then....guitar wise......although my intention was to play it on a LP, I've been eeking it out on a Strat. although i'm partial to strats, I think you'd have to do less "eeking" if you stuck to your LP. Go buy and SG; that ought to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted May 26, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by mangojeep66 although i'm partial to strats, I think you'd have to do less "eeking" if you stuck to your LP.Go buy and SG; that ought to work. Eeeking out is a term we use in Blighty to mean getting something out sor sorting something out or finding something out....not making screechy noises....although I do that too:D And as for an SG I'd sooner drink dog vomit:cry: It is one guitar I will never ever like.....guaranteed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Fosse Fox Okeydokey....what did he play then....guitar wise......although my intention was to play it on a LP, I've been eeking it out on a Strat. More than likely a P-90 equipped SG into an early Mesa Mk I or its prototype. Doesn't sound like a Strat to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mangojeep66 Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Fosse Fox Eeeking out is a term we use in Blighty to mean getting something out sor sorting something out or finding something out....not making screechy noises....although I do that too:D And as for an SG I'd sooner drink dog vomit:cry: It is one guitar I will never ever like.....guaranteed! oooh. Sorry, I hit a guitarNerve with the SG suggestion.I thought you were looking for his vintage cranked amp woodstock tone-because I'm pretty sure that's how he achieved his "on the verge of break up" sustain tone."eeking"=I stand corrected.By "eeking," I thought you meant that sweet tighrope between clean and fluffy-Santana infinite-sustain...ie: "Europa"I still think humbuckers would do that better than a strat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted May 26, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by mangojeep66 I still think humbuckers would do that better than a strat. I could compromise with a set of Pete Biltofts HB size P90s:thu: I'll just go ask my wife if she'd like to fund them....quite a coup if I could manage that:cool: Cheers man:thu: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mangojeep66 Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Fosse Fox I could compromise with a set of Pete Biltofts HB size P90s:thu: I'll just go ask my wife if she'd like to fund them....quite a coup if I could manage that:cool: Cheers man:thu: Good luck with the funding!I have none; and my wife is an unwilling benefactor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Ratae Corieltauvorum Posted May 26, 2006 Author Moderators Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by mangojeep66 and my wife is an unwilling benefactor. So is mine usually, but this is for her niece. I feel kinda low and dirty using that:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mangojeep66 Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Fosse Fox So is mine usually, but this is for her niece. I feel kinda low and dirty using that:cool: skullduggery...I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeeMoore Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by GCDEF More than likely a P-90 equipped SG into an early Mesa Mk I or its prototype. Doesn't sound like a Strat to me. It was a Les Paul into a Fender Twin, according to GP, 30 some odd years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GuitArtMan Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by GCDEF More than likely a P-90 equipped SG into an early Mesa Mk I or its prototype. Doesn't sound like a Strat to me. Yep. Early on Carlos played P90 equiped SGs and Les Pauls. Supposedly Abraxas was cut on a prototype Boogie Mark I, prior to that I believe he was a Fender guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GCDEF Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by SeeMoore It was a Les Paul into a Fender Twin, according to GP, 30 some odd years ago. I'd heard that Abraxas was an early Mk I. That's what Mesa claims anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SeeMoore Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by GCDEF I'd heard that Abraxas was an early Mk I. That's what Mesa claims anyway. Mr. Smith is wrong on that one.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sufidancer Posted May 26, 2006 Members Share Posted May 26, 2006 Originally posted by Fosse Fox I'm presuming that maybe the majority of its is playted just below break up with a pedal tweak to just drive the amp slightly into distortion.Thank you:D I like the sound my Electro Harmonix Double muff gives on the single muff setting turned down gives just the right amount of zing IMO for those pieces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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