Members Acid Hazard Posted February 20, 2008 Members Share Posted February 20, 2008 I was bored and decided to try and emulate the "What The?" patch from the aJuno on my SH-201. I tried using an image of the SoundDiver editor and the actual EZaplha editor for the proper parameters, but it wasn't working out, so i did it totally by ear. The aJuno has a bite and urgency that i couldn't quite get on the SH-201. I don't know if the pitch eg is tighter on the Juno, or it's the way the Juno does it's PWM. This is as close as i could get. I think it's fairly close. These are 8 bars loops. 4 bars of just synth and 4 bars with a backing beat. If anyone likes them, i can upload the patch for any 201 owners. Hoover 1 Hoover 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Awake77 Posted February 20, 2008 Members Share Posted February 20, 2008 That's wicked man!! Sounds great...you should check out the original Juno patch in a harmonic analyzer like Freakoscope, it sounds close enough to my ears but if you wanted to take it even further that would certainly help you nail it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted February 20, 2008 Members Share Posted February 20, 2008 It's the way the Juno does the PWM, and the combination of the chorus with the stupidly high rate. Also, save your files as mp3 - http://www.dors.de/razorlame/ will help you. Saves you bandwidth, saves us the wait . Try a combination of a supersaw and a PWM'd pulsewave one octave higher . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted February 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 20, 2008 Yeah, since the SH-201 doesn't have Chorus, i had to use the Delay as a "chorus". Not quite the same. I know how to save as MP3 =o] Didn't think it was necessary for such a small amount of audio. I'll give your ideas a try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted February 20, 2008 Members Share Posted February 20, 2008 Didn't think it was necessary for such a small amount of audio. Well, thing is that for the size you spend on a .wav file you can have an entire track, so then it's kind of a bummer to only have a few seconds . It always pays off to make an mp3 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raffor Posted February 21, 2008 Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 Didn't think it was necessary for such a small amount of audio. I'll give your ideas a try. I thought that a Chorus is a short delay with pitch modulation and the SH-201 is capable of this according to the manual. Why this is not quite the same as a "normal" Chorus?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Gribs Posted February 21, 2008 Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 That is a great sound, very meaty and chewy. I think it sounds cool as it is. Chorus and flanging are both achieved by applying a delay time that is a constant plus a modulated value to the original input signal and feeding it back into the input. The delay time that you set is the constant and the depth is the degree of modulation. The only difference between chorus and flange is the delay time (shorter time delay for flanging). Some simpler chorus pedals have a fixed constant value for the delay. The constant delay time on the original MXR flanger was called the "manual" control. Some people hooked up a pedal with a device to turn the manual knob using the pedal (or you could try to do it using the little rubber pad that shipped with the pedal). These effects were originally achieved by putting a constant pressure on the reel of a tape machine delay and wiggling the device applying the pressure in some way (e.g. pressing a finger against the reel and wiggling it). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted February 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 I thought that a Chorus is a short delay with pitch modulation and the SH-201 is capable of this according to the manual. Why this is not quite the same as a "normal" Chorus?? A Chorus is designed to do that particular task. While using the delay doesn't yield quite the same results as a proper chorus effect. I have the time all the way down and depth all the way up. It's not the same as if it had a dedicated chorus on it. Def not the same as the old Roland Chorus effect =o] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members controlvoltage Posted February 21, 2008 Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 I try to program hoovers on most of my synths, just for fun... especially when they don't have the architecture for it! Here's the Voyager making hoover sounds... Mooger Hoover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted February 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 That's actually a pretty killer sounding "Techno Lead" sound in it's self! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted February 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 Here's the one i just did on the Evolver. EvoHoover Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted February 21, 2008 Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 it's nice to see Mr Computer Controlled aka Larry aka Acid Hazard here. do you have WI state IDs for all those aliases? i was thinking about getting one for "Suit & Tie Guy" myself because i'm sick of people asking me what my real name is so they can immediately forget it. the evolveroover is IMHO better than the SH-201 hoover, but they're both musically useful. i never really used the AJ1 for more than bass and a vocoder carrier, which means i don't know my hoover from a hole in the ground so my opinion is probably meaningless but because i'm inside the internet i'm going to post anyway because that's what the kids do nowadays. has anyone ever just sampled a vacuum cleaner for their hoover sound? i remember when Distortech first said "i need an alpha juno so i can get that hoover sound again. can you find me one?" i thought "well {censored}, man i've already got a sampler." Amos aka Control Voltage's hoover is pretty cool as well, it for some reason sounds like Keith Emerson made a hoover sound. hopefully Amos realises that's a compliment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Purity_Control Posted February 21, 2008 Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 are they called 'hoovers' because they sound like someone starting up a vacuum cleaner? :~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members raffor Posted February 21, 2008 Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 I kind of like the one with the SH-201 better than the evolver one. But I do not recall the original anymore, so I just go with what sounded good to my ears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted February 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 are they called 'hoovers' because they sound like someone starting up a vacuum cleaner? :~ I'm pretty sure this is where the name came from. At least that's what i always thought as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted February 21, 2008 Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 Distortech claims another source for the phrase "hoover" is "hovercraft", but the vacuum cleaner makes more sense. which reminds me, if you put a hoover line in some acid which is just a 303 and 909 completely dry and overdriven like a mother{censored}er is that "hard hoover handbag house"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Acid Hazard Posted February 21, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 21, 2008 "hard hoover handbag house"? Best genre name EVAR! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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