Members Danny_CKone Posted July 4, 2005 Members Share Posted July 4, 2005 I currently have Grover tuners in my Les paul; and im thinking about install locking tuners...Will the sperzel fit without make new holes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted July 4, 2005 Members Share Posted July 4, 2005 I replaced the Grovers on my son's Agile with locking Sperzels and they fit the same holes. I had to drill one hole for the locating pin on the Sperzels but other than that it was a piece of cake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danny_CKone Posted July 4, 2005 Author Members Share Posted July 4, 2005 So they didnt fit in the screw hole of the Grover....sad notice:( i hate to drill my guitars... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted July 4, 2005 Members Share Posted July 4, 2005 The Sperzels don't have a screw. They have a locating pin to keep it from turning. Grover makes a locking tuner that should replace yours without any drilling. I haven't used them, but I would think they use the same mounting. I'm really sold on Planet Waves locking tuners. I have them on two of my guitars and I'm going to put them on all the others except the Ibanez. It has a Floyd so it doesn't need them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danny_CKone Posted July 4, 2005 Author Members Share Posted July 4, 2005 Thanx for the help Pete! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kevin_FL Posted July 4, 2005 Members Share Posted July 4, 2005 The Grover auto lockers are a direct fit. The only problem I have had with them is the high E string getting clipped off when the it locks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Danny_CKone Posted July 7, 2005 Author Members Share Posted July 7, 2005 Sorry Kevin, my english is poor...what do you want to say with "the high E string getting clipped off when the it locks"? The tuner cut the string? the string is not locked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GretschGuy Posted July 7, 2005 Members Share Posted July 7, 2005 The guy has a Les Paul. Not an Agile. I have Sperzels on a 1980 Standard and I had to drill holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted July 7, 2005 Members Share Posted July 7, 2005 Originally posted by GretschGuy The guy has a Les Paul. Not an Agile.I have Sperzels on a 1980 Standard and I had to drill holes. Did your LP have Klusons or Grovers originally?His has Grovers now so I believe the locking Grovers will replace them without drilling. I pretty certain they use the same housing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GretschGuy Posted July 7, 2005 Members Share Posted July 7, 2005 It came with Gibson tuners that looked like Klusons. I put Grovers on years ago (had to drill for those too) and had to drill out the pin on the Sperzels. They make chrome (not brushed alum) Kluson looking sperzels for LP guitars. They're a little hard to find, but worth getting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members _pete_ Posted July 7, 2005 Members Share Posted July 7, 2005 Ok, we're on the same page then. I had to drill for the pin on the Sperzel's also but they fit the same peghead hole as the Grovers.I know the Kluson and Kluson style tuners have a smaller peghead hole for the most part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GretschGuy Posted July 7, 2005 Members Share Posted July 7, 2005 also note that you will not see the holes you drill as they will be behind the Sperzel and any other tuner will also cover them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BrokenRomeo Posted July 7, 2005 Members Share Posted July 7, 2005 I replaced the regular Grover Rotomatics with the new direct fit full size Grover Locking Rotomatics on several of my Les Paul guitars...they look and work great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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