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  • Halp, my Deliverance isn't delivering

    I just bought a second hand Fryette Deliverance 60 and it just arrived last weekend. I've been pretty busy so I haven't had a chance to fire it up till last night.



    I already made sure the amp was in good condition physically before trying to turn it on and there were no problems I could see. All the tubes seem intact and when I turn the amp on they all light up.



    The amp is way too quiet and barely audible until about noon on the master volume dial. This can't be normal? Also Gain 1 and Gain 2 barely add any gain at all, the most gain I can get out of this amp some crunch starting to happen with gain 1 + 2 maxed out and the switch on gain 2 on "more". When I flip that switch to "less" the amp instantly becomes barely audible.



    Are they just built this way? Once got an amp I thought was broken but turns out it just sucked.
    .

    My rig:
    Edwards ELP-112LTS/RE

    Butler Silver Hammer
    ISP Vector SL
    Kafel 412


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  • #2
    Hell no that's not normal!!



    With gain 1 and 2 at 120 in less mode, it should be at band volume with the master volume knob at 1 - that is, with the knob barely on, 80 on the dial



    Something is ****************ed up, man
    Originally Posted by Rampage


    **************** cleans, play distortion?









    Originally Posted by RiffDaemon


    The scratchy high-end sounds like a wreck in Excitebike









    Originally Posted by buddhapaugh


    I had a nightmare experience like yours, Nerine, when I was in my late 20's/early 30's and was doing the tag-team thing with my buddy over the toilet. Now that was something----







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    • #3
      Hell no that's not normal!!



      With gain 1 and 2 at 120 in less mode, it should be at band volume with the master volume knob at 1 - that is, with the knob barely on, 80 on the dial



      Something is ****************ed up, man
      Originally Posted by Rampage


      **************** cleans, play distortion?









      Originally Posted by RiffDaemon


      The scratchy high-end sounds like a wreck in Excitebike









      Originally Posted by buddhapaugh


      I had a nightmare experience like yours, Nerine, when I was in my late 20's/early 30's and was doing the tag-team thing with my buddy over the toilet. Now that was something----







      Guitars:
      Fender-Hamer-Michael Kelly-Starfield-Ibanez


      Amps/Cabs
      Drive-Eminence-Electro Harmonix-Fender-Jet City-Kustom-VHT-Yamaha

      FX
      ISP-Keeley-Pigtronix

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      • #4
        Sounds to me like you've got a bad preamp tube or two.

        A Deliverance should have STUPID levels of gain with both gains maxed and in More mode.



        Try replacing V1 and see what that does for you.
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        • #5
          Sounds to me like you've got a bad preamp tube or two.

          A Deliverance should have STUPID levels of gain with both gains maxed and in More mode.



          Try replacing V1 and see what that does for you.
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          • #6
            ****************, well that sucks. Any idea what might be the problem?
            .

            My rig:
            Edwards ELP-112LTS/RE

            Butler Silver Hammer
            ISP Vector SL
            Kafel 412


            List of Over 40+ Good Deals on HC!!!
            .

            Comment


            • #7
              ****************, well that sucks. Any idea what might be the problem?
              .

              My rig:
              Edwards ELP-112LTS/RE

              Butler Silver Hammer
              ISP Vector SL
              Kafel 412


              List of Over 40+ Good Deals on HC!!!
              .

              Comment


              • #8
                Do what Sixtonoise suggested. To me, it sounds like an output transformer is dying...hope I am wrong.
                Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

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                • #9
                  Do what Sixtonoise suggested. To me, it sounds like an output transformer is dying...hope I am wrong.
                  Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum.

                  Great Transactions with: blima, draggboy, Pilot08, Elixirmm, Christobevii3, Sixtonoize (actually his friend)

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                  • #10






                    Quote Originally Posted by vangkm
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                    ****************, well that sucks. Any idea what might be the problem?




                    Tubes are fragile and tend to get banged around during shipping.

                    It's hardly the end of the world - they're designed to be replaceable for just that reason.
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                    • #11






                      Quote Originally Posted by vangkm
                      View Post

                      ****************, well that sucks. Any idea what might be the problem?




                      Tubes are fragile and tend to get banged around during shipping.

                      It's hardly the end of the world - they're designed to be replaceable for just that reason.
                      Good Transactions - Peavey VTM Mods Lounge
                      The Legacy Of...

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                      • #12
                        Tubes!



                        Replace them one at a time until you find the bad one.
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                        • #13
                          Tubes!



                          Replace them one at a time until you find the bad one.
                          Mesa Boogie MK III
                          Marshall DSL 50
                          JCA 20H
                          ADA MP-1

                          Kramer Stagemaster
                          Gibson Les Paul Studio Premium Plus
                          Gibson Les Paul Vintage Mahogony
                          Fender HM Strat
                          Paul Reed Smith SE Custom

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                          • #14
                            Yes check the preamp tubes for sure. If it doesn't work though, don't freak out until you check inside and make sure all of the ribbon cables and everything else are attached on all of the boards and everything.



                            I had a similar sounding issue with a Framus Dragon I bought recently, and everyone immediately said tubes tubes tubes, so I bought a new set of tubes and still nothing! One person recommended me to open it up and check inside for anything that could have disconnected in shipping getting tossed around, and that was exactly the issue. One of the ribbon cables must have gotten jarred loose during shipping and all it took was reconnecting it and everything worked great afterwards.



                            The D60 should be LOUD! My buddy (in a metal band) sold his because it was TOO loud

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                            • #15
                              Yes check the preamp tubes for sure. If it doesn't work though, don't freak out until you check inside and make sure all of the ribbon cables and everything else are attached on all of the boards and everything.



                              I had a similar sounding issue with a Framus Dragon I bought recently, and everyone immediately said tubes tubes tubes, so I bought a new set of tubes and still nothing! One person recommended me to open it up and check inside for anything that could have disconnected in shipping getting tossed around, and that was exactly the issue. One of the ribbon cables must have gotten jarred loose during shipping and all it took was reconnecting it and everything worked great afterwards.



                              The D60 should be LOUD! My buddy (in a metal band) sold his because it was TOO loud

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