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  • Shure E5 Earphones

    I currently have a wired PSM200 and am using the E2 earbuds. I am considering upgrading to the E5 earphones but the salesman told me it would be a waste to buy the E5's since the PSM200 is only mono. He said I should get the E1's.

    Anyway - what are your thoughts ?

  • #2
    There's no significant difference between an E2 and an E1. Not much, anyway. You'd be wasting your money.

    E5s sound great, much more low end and extended high end too. You'll cry the first time you break a set where the wire goes into the bud, though.

    Terry D.
    Telling Stories releases 2nd CD, see our WEBSITE! Please check out my GROUPIE STORY and Tales from the Road.

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    • #3
      Kind of a strange tactic by a salesman, borders on sales prevention. E5's will sound notably different than E2's. Low frequencies are very similar, but the E5's shine in the upper frequencies.

      As mentioned an E1 and E2 sound similar. Specifically the E2 has a warmer low frequency response and the E1 has a nice smooth high frequency response.

      What are your reasons for wanting to upgrade? Are you looking for more highs? Better overall sound quality? Better fit?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by MrKnobs
        There's no significant difference between an E2 and an E1. Not much, anyway. You'd be wasting your money.

        E5s sound great, much more low end and extended high end too. You'll cry the first time you break a set where the wire goes into the bud, though.

        Terry D.




        Do they tend to break under normal use......if so, are they covered under warranty......or are you just SOL ?
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        • #5
          Originally posted by SurrealMcCoy
          Do they tend to break under normal use......if so, are they covered under warranty......or are you just SOL ?


          Well, what's normal?

          Sunday night I played a show and watched one of the backup singers putting an E2 in her ear. She was rolling the foamie to compress it first (good girl!) but in the process she was brutally twisting the wire right where it goes into the bud!

          I've also seen people get the wire caught on their guitar strap, or drop the receiver, either way ripping the buds right out of their ears by the wires!

          These things can take a surprising amount of abuse before they give up the ghost, but with rough treatment it's inevitable that the little wires will break. I don't think the warranty could reasonably cover that, but I will say that Shure service is very kind compared to other manufacturers I've dealt with.

          I've not broken a wire on an E5 yet, but I don't let just anybody use my one pair of E5s. The E2s get used by a lot of people.

          After quite a bit of experience and thought, I think it's just like having a teenager driving the family car. "Junior" don't light up the tires if he has to pay to replace them!

          And, the bottom line is, this is business. There's going to be some operating cost, and if I end up having to replace an E2 once in a while, well, it's only $75. That's like, what, three Duracell Alkaline Max batteries? I go through those damn things like water.

          Terry D.
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          • #6
            I would be very careful.......
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            • #7
              Hey! I'm a bass player. Did I just hear that the E2 might be a better fit? I'm currently using E1 with the PSM400. Our guitar player used an E2 while his E1 was out for repair. He had to use the high boost feature on the receiver to make it sound right to him. Sugerfried - whaddyathink?

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              • #8
                TrickDog: An E1 has more high frequency response than an E2.

                Fit is a personal thing - everyone's ears are different. For some, an E2 is like an inverted glove - perfect. For others it won't go in at all. Same thing for E1's, E5's, and just about every other universal fitting earphone I can think of.

                Terry and Surreal: If you break a set of E1's or E2's the replacement cost is the same as for an SM57 or SM58, just $55. If it's in warranty and it breaks under normal use there is no relpacement fee. Replacement fee for the E5 is $100. And it's also covered by a two year warranty.
                I've had a pair of E1's for the entire 5 years that I've worked at Shure and they still work just fine. Like all gear, if you take care of it you'll enjoy it for a long time.

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                • #9
                  So, fit issue aside, does the E2 have MORE low end than the E1 or does the E1 have MORE high end and the SAME low end as the E2? Hmmm... I need more coffee! I'm confusing myself!

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                  • #10
                    And more importantly..... how can I get some E2 carrying cases for my three E1s? I've got two E2s for E1 backup and portable MP3 player use. Love the little zipper thingy.

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                    • #11
                      I'm a bass player that subs in various theaters and shows that use in ear monitors and everyone is direct to the board, with no amps. After trying to hear myself with the house E-1 buds for several shows I bought a set of the E-5s. Like night and day.

                      This is my personal set and I just plug into whatever Shure receiver unit they give me for my monitor mix (all PS400s and 600s so far). Much easier for me to determine my intonation and tone at lower volumes with the E-5s. When I leave the show, so do my E-5s.

                      I've used a custom fitted set of ear plugs for many years to protect my hearing and I am going to have a set of fitted ear plugs made for my E-5s. Should I put extra emphasis on stain relief?
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                      • #12
                        TrickDog: The low frequency response of E1 and E2 is almost the same, but many perceive more lows from the E2. It handles kick drums and bass guitars with a bit more of a dynamic response. This is primarily due to the difference in the drivers used. On a frequency graph they look almost identical, but those graphs don't take into account the transient response of the drivers. This is why people perceive more lows from an E2.

                        Regarding the pouch, we'll probably make it an accessory pretty soon. I don't know when.

                        J the D: I'm not sure what you mean by extra emphasis on stain relief? Do you mean strain relief?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Sugarfried
                          J the D: I'm not sure what you mean by extra emphasis on stain relief? Do you mean strain relief?


                          LOL!

                          If President Clinton had paid a little more attention to stain relief we'd be living in a different world right now.

                          He does prefer E5's over E1's, though.

                          Terry D.
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Sugarfried
                            J the D: I'm not sure what you mean by extra emphasis on stain relief? Do you mean strain relief?


                            I stand by my previous dissemblence.


                            I am using the E-5 buds and am getting some custom fitted ear plugs made for them by an audiologist (same guy that made my hearing saving ear plugs). I read the earlier posts regarding the wires pulling out and was wondering if I should have him cast my new ear plugs so they provide some additional st*R*ain relief to the wires.
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                            • #15
                              So the audiologist that made your custom earplugs is making one for your E5's? I am only aware of two companies that make them right now, Sensaphonics and Westone. Is it either of those companies? Or does he actually make them himself?

                              In any event, I don't think an additional strain relief would be required, but I'm not sure if the mold would be the same as when Sensaphonics or Westone do it. So I don't really know.

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