Members dach123 Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 I have the M-Audio Microtrack device, which I bought for recording band practice. This is to replace a dead MD recorder.I have a decent stereo mic, at least the MD unit made great recordings with it. The problem I'm having is that the Microtrack doesn't reduce the input level enough: a band with drums is too loud for it, I get the red peak lights all the time, and the sound is distorted. I'm willing to try a mic preamp, but I'm having trouble figuring out which one would be good enough without spending a lot of $$. All I need is something to reduce the level going in. Second option is to add another mic to capture the guitars, and get the right pieces to come off the mixer's output. But it's not clear if that would be too loud as well.Appreciate any information in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 You need a mic pad, not a preamp. Try a 10dB pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Which input are you using, the 1/4" TRS or the 1/8" TRS? You should be using the 1/4" one and have the input switched to mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dach123 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 The mic has a 1/8" plug, so I've been using the 1/8" mic input. I get decent sound (enough for my needs) when the sound isn't too loud, such as when one guitar is playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dach123 Posted January 11, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Any help on where to buy a mic pad? Is this a separate unit? Sorry for my ignorance. I see a lot of condensor mics availble with the pad built in, but they're a bit expensive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 the 1/8" input is not affected by the input level controls, and is designed specifically for use with stereo electret microphone included with the unit. Plug your mic into the 1/4" TRS mic input (using an 1/8"-1/4" TRS adapter if necessary) and switch the input to mic, adjust gain accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members agedhorse Posted January 11, 2006 Members Share Posted January 11, 2006 Originally posted by where02190 the 1/8" input is not affected by the input level controls, and is designed specifically for use with stereo electret microphone included with the unit. Plug your mic into the 1/4" TRS mic input (using an 1/8"-1/4" TRS adapter if necessary) and switch the input to mic, adjust gain accordingly. If this is how it works (seems like an odd feature not to be able to adjust input sensitivity of an input) than this is a good solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted January 12, 2006 Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 the 1/8" input is for a specific mic supplied with the unit, and is completely separate from the mic/line inputs, which have a sensitivity control. Personally I'd rather they cut the price a few bucks and ditch the crappy supplied mic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dach123 Posted January 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 I thought the 1/4" line inputs had to be XLR-type inputs. Anyway I tried connecting my stereo mic, which is probably a better version than the supplied mic, to a 1/8 - 1/4 plug. No sound whatsoever. Tried the L and M settings. Any ideas on what I might be doing wrong? Do I switch to a regular vocal mic and try that??Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ashivraj Posted January 12, 2006 Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 Make sure the 1/4" line-in isn't balanced. If it is, and you're sending it a stereo signal, then you won't get very much out... I'd try a regular vocal mic (using an XLR > 1/4" adapter to see what happens). AS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted January 12, 2006 Members Share Posted January 12, 2006 Read the specs for the unit. The unit has 2 TRS balanced mic/line inputs. Feed it a balanced signal from your mics, one mic to each input, wired as follows: XLR pin 1 to TRS SleeveXLR pin 2 to TRS TipXLR pin 3 to TRS Ring If you have a stereo mic that is a single TRS, you need to split it into two mono TS signals as follows: TRS Sleeve-TS sleeve (both connectors)TRS Ring-TS tip (right input only)TRS Tip-TS tip (left input only) Make sure you have the inputs set to mic, and if necessary phantom power on. Note you cannot drive phantom power if you are splitting a stereo mic that terminates on a single TRS connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members soundcamera Posted March 3, 2007 Members Share Posted March 3, 2007 This is an old thread, but this person was probably only looking for something like this:http://www.minidisco.com/ATT-10A 10db attenuator for 1/8" which lets the trickle power through letting you use the provided 1/8" mic with somewhat louder sources. Portable recording isn't simple/easy any more when you're bringing alternate mics and the bizarre array of adapters needed to get sound into the 1/4' TRS. I've had the same problem, but my concerts are so loud that I don't think 10db is enough, so I never got the attenuator. Sorry for the blind recommendation, but that's still 10db more headroom. This might help people who's sources only occasionally peak the input now. The LOW/MED/HIGH hardware switch does affect the 1/8" mic. But the software levels seem to only affect the 1/4" inputs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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