Members 55fmj Posted May 17, 2010 Members Share Posted May 17, 2010 Here is a quick question. I am doing a small outside party for apprx. 75 people. It will just be me and my acoustic guitar. I will be mostly be the focus of attention but not totally. People will also be wandering around, eating and drinking as well as dancing. I'm wanting to know if you think a pair of SP2's on poles will be enough for this, or should I also add a pair of subs ? I don't need a huge amount of volume but I do need a decent full sound. I realize that a single vocal and a acoustic guitar does not utilize that much low frequencies but it does add that little "extra" that gives it the fullness that I like. If you think that the subs are unnessesary, I am fine with that as it is that much less I need to haul around. I should also mention the SP2's are powered by a peavey XR8600 which is at the low end of the power rating for those speakers. I would greatly appreciate your opinions. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMS Author Craig Vecchione Posted May 17, 2010 CMS Author Share Posted May 17, 2010 Subs are not needed for this. The SP2 is more than capable of handling the low end of a guitar well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bugzie Posted May 17, 2010 Members Share Posted May 17, 2010 No need for subs. People often underestimate the SP2's. For the money they are a decent box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dandy Don Posted May 18, 2010 Members Share Posted May 18, 2010 SP-2's or any decent 15 & horn combo would do the job with no need for subs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miket156 Posted May 18, 2010 Members Share Posted May 18, 2010 For those are recent SP2's they are rated at 500 watts continuous sine wave at 8 ohms. Earlier versions where 400 watts or less. The specs on that powered mixer is 600 watts at 4 ohms. Dual amplifier, EQ, Mic Preamp. Not bad for a powered mixer. If you run off one side to both speakers to get a 4 ohm load, you will be under powering the speakers. So don't play loud and avoid clipping so you don't damage the speakers or over drive the amp. Aside from that, SP'2 do a great job if you don't have EAW money to spend. Guitar and vocals are mostly mid range sounds, no needs for subs. Mike T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members 55fmj Posted May 19, 2010 Author Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 The XR8600 is 600 watts per channel at 4 ohms or 475 watts per channel at 8 ohms. So, each speaker is getting 475 watts. I know it is just under the 500 continuous rating but it still seems to do fine. Adding the subs with another amp seems to "free up" the 475 watts per speaker a little but I was hoping that I could avoid lugging those subs around if I didn't have to ! ha ah I think I will try the sp2's by themselves before I actually have to play the gig and see how they do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members summit111 Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 My Brother, We used to run our entire band using an XR8600 with (2) SP-2's. I'd use a Peavey 20 channel mixer into one of the powered mixer channels. E-Drums, piano, organ, vocals. We'd also use a couple of monitors powered by the monitor amp. Small clubs sounded great. No subs needed. Trust me, I play with a lot of pro's and bigger isn't always better. We have a bigger tri-amped rig with subs and tops for bigger venues. Don't get caught up in the hype that you need a huge rig for all gigs. Be smart! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miket156 Posted May 19, 2010 Members Share Posted May 19, 2010 by 55fmj:The XR8600 is 600 watts per channel at 4 ohms or 475 watts per channel at 8 ohms. So, each speaker is getting 475 watts. I know it is just under the 500 continuous rating but it still seems to do fine That should work fine. I over power my SP2's a bit, but then I don't play loud. 700 watts at 8 ohms power amp (Yamaha P7000s) for a speaker rated at 500 watts. I like the added punch and I have a compressor/limiter. Some "tech" people told my I should use the 1000 watt "Program" rating to determine how much juice to put through them, and someone else told me I should absolutely positively Bi-amp them. I did none of the above. 700 watts is plenty of power and as long as I don't play loud my setup should work fine for years to come. I wouldn't bother with subs if I was using a guitar and vocals with SP2's. Cheers, Mike T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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