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  • If Moog can reissue the Taurus.......

    If Moog can reissue a short run of the Taurus, a relatively niche product, why then can they not release a Polyphonic Moog of some sort, only in limited quantity?

    Everybody wants it to happen, but it never does........
    Formerly known as sausagefoot.

  • #2
    Economies of scale. Supply and demand.

    The man hours to re-do an existing polysynth for today's hardware are prohibitive, the Taurus - not so much. I suspect there will be a "stage edition" of the Taurus 3 down the road a ways if they do well.

    Nobody wants to spend ten grand on a brand new Memorymoog.

    They could slap eight Little Phatty circuit boards in a big-ass case but I doubt it would cost less than six grand.

    I think most musicians want to spend less than a thousand on a "board that does everything"...and most of them probably have no clue that there's any difference between analog and VA. Sad but true.
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    • #3
      If we're dreaming, why the Polymoog and not the memorymoog?

      And to answer your question, the answer is that they don't think they would make money doing that.

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      • #4
        If we're dreaming, why the Polymoog and not the memorymoog?

        And to answer your question, the answer is that they don't think they would make money doing that.


        Correction, I meant a Polyphonic Moog, no particular previous design. Unless that's what you guys would prefer

        I'd prefer an update, like the voyager was.
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        • #5
          Correction, I meant a Polyphonic Moog, no particular previous design.


          http://www.moogarchives.com/insl8.htm

          I really wonder what that would've sounded like.
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          • #6

            And to answer your question, the answer is that they don't think they would make money doing that.


            I'm not so sure. DSI took the Prophet 08, split it into one voice and made the MoPho. Then they took the MoPho x 4 and made the Tetra.

            I think Moog could do it and make a profit. They seem to know just how many of an item to make.

            Personnally, I'd like to see Moog make all their Moogerfoogers in Eurorack modules.
            Gear: buncha stuff and a couple bazilion cables

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            • #7
              Correction, I meant a Polyphonic Moog, no particular previous design. Unless that's what you guys would prefer

              I'd prefer an update, like the voyager was.


              I'd love a polyphonic Moog. But even I wouldn't be interested in 8 voices for $6000+ which is, realistically, what I think it would go for.
              Best Regards, James
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              • #8
                http://www.moogarchives.com/insl8.htm

                I really wonder what that would've sounded like.





                It looks sexy as hell. Now to salivate.......
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                • #9
                  The "Slate" was released, but with a few tweaks.

                  Best Regards, James
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                  My Newest CD "Stealing The Sun": http://carbon111.bandcamp.com/

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                  • #10
                    I'd love a polyphonic Moog. But even I wouldn't be interested in 8 voices for $6000+ which is, realistically, what I think it would go for.


                    I think they could sell 500 units, a limited run, at a tag between 5 and 6k. Of course I'm no businessman, all I know is the enthusiasm for Moog products on every keyboard forum I've seen. Still you have to consider that the Voyager, for what all that it is, is still just a great sounding, fairly limited, mono synth and THAT is still selling strong at 3300 bucks....... so take that for what it's worth
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                    • #11
                      I'm not so sure. DSI took the Prophet 08, split it into one voice and made the MoPho. Then they took the MoPho x 4 and made the Tetra.

                      I think Moog could do it and make a profit. They seem to know just how many of an item to make.

                      Personnally, I'd like to see Moog make all their Moogerfoogers in Eurorack modules.


                      And how much is a mopho compared to a Voyager or little phatty? There's no comparison. DSI's synths are all based on highly integrated ICs which have the analog voice core all on one chip, so they're really inexpensive and scalable. None of Moog's synths feature that level of integration, and they don't use DCOs, so they don't scale well. Moog would be starting from square one if they chose to do a polysynth.

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                      • #12
                        FWIW:

                        Some salient points in this thread have got me thinking...

                        I think we, as synth enthusiasts, have a very skewed vision of the actual market for synths in general, much less real analog ones.

                        In terms of production numbers, most synths barely go into the hundreds.

                        Sales in the thousands that the DX7 or M1 saw are rather rare. (Those were lucky enough to be the flagships during huge paradigm shifts.)

                        99% of keyboardists are looking for a workstation/all-in-one type of board. For rarely needed "exotic" sounds, there's always comparatively cheap software.
                        Best Regards, James
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                        My Newest CD "Stealing The Sun": http://carbon111.bandcamp.com/

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                        • #13
                          The "Slate" was released, but with a few tweaks.



                          The SL8 was meant to be the next Moog product AFTER the Memorymoog, using DCO's..

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                          • #14
                            They could slap eight Little Phatty circuit boards in a big-ass case but I doubt it would cost less than six grand.
                            (


                            I think the LP already supports poly chaining, if you were to buy two or more of them.
                            They could release a rack chassis with no controls on it and 8 slots inside, then sell voice cards separately to plug in. You'd need an LP to start with, but the system would be scalable for whatever a customer could afford. Similar to the the Studio Electronics Omega and Code racks (which, btw, an 8-voice Omega is $6,000 MSRP).
                            Disclaimer: I have no idea what I'm talking about.

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                            • #15
                              The SL8 was meant to be the next Moog product AFTER the Memorymoog, using DCO's..




                              The sheet linked to was from the 83 NAMM and, IIRC, Moog was still making and selling the Memorymoog Plus in 1984 and maybe even later, hence my misunderstanding.

                              EDIT: Just found this: http://moogarchives.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=9 Very interesting.
                              Funny how the DX7 torpedoed so many synths...
                              Best Regards, James
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