Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 Vox Amplification JamVox ($250, street) Integrated Monitor + Software Jam-Along System All guitarists like to learn from their heroes and influences by listening, analyzing, practicing, and jamming along. And all students of the guitar (whether currently “taking lessons” or not) dream of having a rig that makes practicing, jamming, and recording versatile yet easy to manage. But assembling all the required gear for a complete and efficient system for handling these varied tasks can produce a dauntingly complex snake-pit of cords and gadgetry. Consider that you need a sound system to play back the recorded music; you need your own rig and the right effects to emulate the sound at hand and to inspire you; and you need some way of mixing the two together, as well as a way of changing both your own sound (like effects switching) and the playback of the backing tracks. Oh, and you want to be able to record everything, too. Whew. Even if you’re willing to put in the energy to cobble together a rig that accommodates all these scenarios, it’s going to be one ugly, unholy mess. That’s where JamVox (http://www.voxamps.com/jamvox) steps in. In a single system that is both streamlined and powerful, Vox Amplification’s JamVox obliterates clutter and gives you all the resources you need for creating a jam station, an educational mechanism (teachers, take note), and a sound-creation workbench. And they do it with one box and one computer cable. You supply the guitar, guitar cord, and computer (plus optional expression pedal if you want wah or other real-time control). Hey, you don’t even need a power cable or AC outlet with this thing, either (which translates into portability). With any computer (including your laptop running on battery power), JamVox gives you everything you need to practice, play, record, and study the songs and licks of the greats. All for $250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 The JamVox package consists of one software disk and the monitor (plus a standard USB cable), which most guitarists will come to think of as “the amp.” (Though of course, it’s a mixer, too.) So conceptually, the bulk of JamVox’s features lie in the software part of the package. The highlights of the software-based features include: • Amp and effects modeling: 19 amp models, 54 effects, 100 artist preset sounds. • GXT, or Guitar XTraction technology, which removes the featured guitar or vocal from virtually any recording, allowing you to play the part yourself, over the backing tracks, which are left intact. • Playback and record features that allow you to tempo- and pitch-adjust, loop, and automate certain functions, like patch changes and the in and out points for the GXT (e.g., only in the tune’s solo sections). • A tuner, metronome, onboard drum beats, a mixer, two-CD/28-song bundle, and other disk-management functions to help you organize your work. The JamVox’s main screen and features (see circled numbers above): 1. VOX logo You can click this to view the About screen, which provides information about the version. 2. Program select (program name, up/down arrows) Here you can view and select the program. 3. Utility buttons This area contains buttons that perform various functions for guitar programs, such as the Save button, Compare button, and Audition button. 4. Tube (Valve) This area displays vacuum tubes. The type and number of vacuum tubes shown will depend on the amp model you’ve selected. The way in which the vacuum tubes illuminate will depend on the “VR GAIN” setting of the amp model. 5. PICKUP SELECTOR This simulates the guitar’s pickup. 6. Effect routing The effect routing shows the amp model and how the various effect modules are arranged. 7. Amp/cabinet control panel Here you can select and adjust the amp model, and select the cabinet model. 8. Effect control panel This shows the effect module that’s selected in the effect routing area. You can edit the parameters of the effect module that’s displayed. 9. METRONOME Here you can turn the metronome on/off, and specify its tempo and time signature. 10. MIXER Here you can adjust the volume of the guitar, mic, and music player tracks. 11. Music player Here you can play back or record songs. 12. Library/list This area lets you manage music, guitar programs, and GXT programs. 13. Function buttons This area contains buttons for various functions used with the music player. 14. CPU meter This indicates the current load on your computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 JamVox is a system with two principal components: the software and the hardware monitor. The monitor is a lunchbox-sized “amp” with two speakers and a control panel along the bottom. It looks and works just like a practice amp: you have your inputs (guitar, mic), level controls (input, output), a headphone jack and a monitor level control. On the back panel are two footswitch jacks (one dedicated to an expression pedal) and stereo line in and out jacks (four total). The USB jack connects you to the computer for data transfer and to draw power for the monitor. This is what I found amazing: this heavy-duty (for its size) enclosure, sporting two speakers and the necessary circuitry to drive them, does not require external power. If you know anything about the electrical power it takes to drive loudspeakers with enough oomph to be audibly satisfying to humans (especially guitar-playing ones), you’ll find this amazing, too. Here’s a shot of the front panel: The monitor looks like a lunchbox-sized amp, with a heavy-duty cabinet housing two 2.5" speakers and a control panel. Note the jacks for both guitar and an XLR mic, which work simultaneously. _ Here’s a shot of the back panel: The back of the monitor showing the stereo I/O, expression pedal and footswitch jack, and the USB jack used for data transfer and power. _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 The monitor is both the interface that hooks your guitar, mic, and external audio into the computer, as well as the sound system that plays back your mix (guitar with effects, mic, and backing tracks). As the physical setup is obvious to anyone who’s ever used an amp and a basic stage mixer, it’s fairly intuitive how to hook up your gear. If you have a playback device, get the necessary adapters and plug it into the back. Ditto for an expression pedal (wah) or footswitch (for hands-free control of the JamVox’s functions). The guitar and mic plug into the front. If you want to plug the monitor into a P.A. for a bigger sound, use the 1/4" stereo outs in the back. Both power and data travel over the included USB cable. That’s all there is to setting up the system from the physical, hardware standpoint. To get up and running, you follow the disk-installation routine, hook the monitor into your computer via USB, and you’re ready to go. Then it’s just a matter of plugging in your guitar (or other external sounds source, such as an mp3 player or DiscMan). Unlike some systems that carry their operating system onboard (i.e., within the circuitry of the unit itself), the JamVox requires a disk installation, so the computer you use must have an available optical drive (note well, all you netbook users). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 One caveat to realize about the JamVox is that you can use only the guitar + mic or the aux inputs, but not both at the same time (though the mic can be used simultaneously with the guitar). So you can’t, say, blend your aux-inputted iPod and your guitar. (Well ... clever hackers will recognize that since both the mic and guitar inputs work simultaneously, you can use adapters to covert your 1/8" mp3 player output to XLR and then balance the blend using the volume control on the player.) If both the front panel (guitar, mic) and back panel (mp3 player, DiscMan, etc.) jacks have plugs in them, the JamVox monitor gives the front panel priority. This is the right choice, because it allows you to leave your audio player plugged in more or less permanently in the back while accessing the front panel on demand. If you’re a teacher, you definitely want to plug in your mp3 player into the back because you can record any song in the analog domain this way. Once you try to import songs digitally, you may run into DRM (digital rights management issues). Note: It is wrong to steal music, so don’t do it. But if you have a song that is not rights-protected, you can get it into the system via the rear-panel aux inputs in the analog domain. The more important thing to realize is that to jam along, and to apply GXT (Guitar XTraction, described below) to any songs, you must first import the audio into the system as a file (mp3, wave, aiff). The easiest way is to do this as a file import, not using the rear-panel jacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 We’ll get into all the workings and work routines of the JamVox, but certainly one of the unit’s chief featurs is GXT, or Guitar XTtraction (extraction) technology, which allows you to cancel out, or remove, the guitar or vocal from any track, leaving just the rhythm tracks (with just a faint trace of the original in many cases, but it’s masked once you start playing). This is not a new technology (“vocal eliminators” are common in both hardware and software formats), but the JamVox manages to include a couple of enhancements. These are: 1) parameter control, whereby you can optimize the treatment of GXT for the particular context. In other words, what might work well with a metal-based power trio might not work for a fully orchestrated prog-rock arrangement. The JamVox allows you tailor GXT to get the best result—and then save the result; 2) you can program GXT to kick in and out at just the right time, so that you don’t hear the effect except when it’s solo time. _ _ As for the XTraction technology itself, this is an improvement over the older “vocal eliminator” approach in one significant way: you can listen to the extracted part (the guitar or vocal solo) for close examination, if necessary. This is comes in handy if you’re really studying a difficult part and want to hear it without the surrounding instruments. Plus, you can slow it down without changing the pitch for even closer scrutiny. The other way GXT improves on other systems is, as mentioned above, by allowing you to extensively control the parameters of the extraction process and then save that setup as a “GXT program.” You’re free to then set up another profile for another song. Vox even encourages you to upload your programs to build up on online library (www.jamvox-online.com). That way, if I want to see if someone’s created a GXT profile for Van Halen’s “Hot For Teacher,” I can check online first. Here's a screen shot showing the landing page of Vox's online GXT programs. Note that you can view how many downloads each song has received, which gives you an insight into a song's popularity (teachers might find this info valuable, to determine which songs the kiddies are listening to these days). Hmm, maybe I will learn Joe Walsh's solo to "Hotel California" after all! _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 I tried a couple of different tracks, from Stevie Ray Vaughan’s “Pride and Joy” to Eric Johnson’s “Cliffs of Dover” to Linkin Park’s “What I’ve Done.” It’s fairly amazing to hear the GXT work, and even though this technology isn’t brand new, Vox employs it to excellent effect here. It’s easy to invoke (a button press), versatile (you can program it to kick in and out at certain points), programmable (and save-able), and you can listen to either the “music minus one” tracks or the extracted track itself (which you can then slow down). You do have to tweak it get the best results, but because you can save your GXT programs, it's well worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 Amp and effects modeling is one thing Vox does well, as evidenced by their amp series Valvetronix, and of course their ToneLab series of floor-based effects processors (you can see the Pro Review of the Vox ToneLab LE elsewhere in this forum). But here Vox has really raised the bar, taking their sound production and architecture to the visual arena and computer screen as your interface, instead of on a hardware front panel. Here, you can take advantage of a very visual and intuitive approach to programming and tweaking: drag and drop. The artwork is excellent, and shows you at a glance the type of effect you’re looking for (wah pedal, green-colored tube-emulating stompbox, etc.). Drag any effect to or from the chain, and the animation shows the chain “making room” for the new effect, and then patching the new addition into the line. Here’s a shot of the signal chain, copied from the manual (it looks better on the actual screen): _ If you want to edit the controls on a component, simply double-click it, and it expands to reveal the front panel where you can tweak to your satisfaction. Here’s a close-up of some of the individual effects’ editable parameters, again copied out of a page of the owner's manual. _ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 It should be noted the manual provides helpful hints along the way, especially with regard to their modeling technology. Here’s a helpful chart from page 10 in the effects manual on matching amp models with cabinet models: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members streetknight Posted March 27, 2009 Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 Cool, been waiting on some news on these. What's the deal with the Pickup Selector that's labeled #5 on the diagram? Does this thing just emulate a humbucker or single? ie- If I'm playing my strat thru it and select the "humbucker" in the software, will I get the same tone as if I used my Les Paul, or does the actual guitar's tone come thru. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted March 27, 2009 Author Members Share Posted March 27, 2009 What's the deal with the Pickup Selector that's labeled #5 on the diagram? Does this thing just emulate a humbucker or single? ie- If I'm playing my strat thru it and select the "humbucker" in the software, will I get the same tone as if I used my Les Paul, or does the actual guitar's tone come thru. It's more the case of the former. This is all done within the modeling arena, after the guitar's signal has been converted into the digital domain. But calling it a "pickup selector" just makes it a little more intuitive to relate to. For example, if you're playing a single-coil and you want that initial (that is, pre-effect) sound fatter and with a little more output and less hum, you might try this one-control solution before messing around with the EQ, etc., and stuff further down the line. The JamVox doesn't have the subtle and sophisticated controls of, say, the ToneLab LE, but for a quick fix, the pickup selector just might do the job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flowerpower Posted April 4, 2009 Members Share Posted April 4, 2009 Hi Jon, Thanks for the rather exhaustive "review" of the JAMVOX, although I must say, for all of the words in it, I don't think there was much, if any, direct, specific mention of how it actually sounds. I'm particularly interested to hear your opinion of how it stacks up, tone-wise, to its hardware cousin, the ToneLab. I'd love to be able to switch from the ToneLab to the JAMVOX, but only if the tone is there. Any opinions you have on this matter would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted April 4, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 4, 2009 I'm particularly interested to hear your opinion of how it stacks up, tone-wise, to its hardware cousin, the ToneLab. I'd love to be able to switch from the ToneLab to the JAMVOX, but only if the tone is there. I was going to continue my discussion about the workings of the unit and the tone qualities in a future post, but I can answer your question fairly easily: The JamVox is not a software replacement for the ToneLab. To be fair, the whole JamVox package is much cheaper than the TL, and the JV has to bundle a lot of different features into its system. Also, when you have a dedicated hardware device, with its own onboard DSP, you can generally beat out a software package that has to rely a host CPU to create tone, record, and perform other functions. It's a good question, though, because many software amp emulators (Line 6 Amp Farm, NI Guitar Rig, Waves GTR3, IKM AmpliTube) create deep, complex tone-shaping tools with gorgeous interfaces. So theoretically, Vox could put the TL in software form, but they haven't done that here. Not with the JamVox. Not yet. If I had to respond subjectively between the JV and the TL (after the disclaimer that it's apples and oranges), I would say that the JV sounds very decent, and is reminiscent of the TL technology. But there's not the editing depth nor the subtle interaction available on the TL. The JV is more about broad strokes. There's a certain three-dimensional-ness in the TL that the JV doesn't have. That's strictly a tonal assessment, though. What is valuable is to be able to get close, and having an intuitive and quick drag-n-drop object-oriented method for building your signal chain--and then grabbing the individual knobs from there. It does make a difference in your practice to go from, say, metal to blues rock with a touch of a button, and to fix something quickly (like if you, friend or a student are using a different guitar and you need to make a quick adjustment). So again, apples and oranges. The ToneLab is for live and recording work, and you would evaluate it against, say, the Boss GT-10 or Line 6 POD XT Live. The JamVox is a practice, transcribing, and jam tool that allows you to shape your tone with a fair amount of flexibility and producing decent tone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flowerpower Posted April 4, 2009 Members Share Posted April 4, 2009 Thanks for your thorough and fair response, Jon. It is much appreciated. So what you're basically saying is that I was hoping to make apple pies with oranges. So the ToneLab stays! I AM interested in that GXT technology, though . . . *rubs chin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted April 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 22, 2009 On the Vox website they have a demo of the GXT technology in action. They present three different types of music -- a blues shuffle, an uptempo chicken-pickin' country thing, and a twin-lead metal passage. As you listen to the excerpts, you can selectively punch in and out the GXT. But I've included the audio here so you can experience it yourself, A/B'ing the two passages just by listening to one mp3 file per song, without having to push any buttons. Each passage is about 30 seconds long, so I put them back to back in the same file. The first time through is just the plain audio file (with lead guitars). Then I play them a second time, with just a few seconds of the lead guitar before activating GXT. So what you hear in these three mp3's are the following: Blues Shuffle: with lead, then without (GXT engaged) Chicken Pickin': with lead, then without Twin-lead Metal Shredfest: with twin guitars, then without Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members streetknight Posted April 22, 2009 Members Share Posted April 22, 2009 Seems like it does a pretty decent job to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted April 22, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 22, 2009 Seems like it does a pretty decent job to me. Yes, I agree, and remember that unlike some systems, in the JamVox version of their "guitar eliminator" circuitry, you can optimize the controls to get the best results, and then name and save these settings as a profile, which you can then re-load if you come across similar material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted April 23, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 23, 2009 Yes, I agree, and remember that unlike some systems, in the JamVox version of their "guitar eliminator" circuitry, you can optimize the controls to get the best results, and then name and save these settings as a profile, which you can then re-load if you come across similar material. I should point out that the GXT works on any center-focused material, including vocals. You just move the controls around to find the best setting for what you want to remove. The more drastic results you want, the more "altered" the resultant sound, so if you're trying to cop a note-for-note solo, you don't have to bury the lead guitar that much, as your own playing will mask the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted April 29, 2009 Author Members Share Posted April 29, 2009 From the voxamps.com website: JamVOX Guitaraoke Nights! Catch a demo of JamVOX and try it out yourself! VOX representatives will be on hand to demonstrate JamVOX, then the stage is yours. Bring your guitar. We’ll bring the backing tracks. Everyone who plays gets a free VOX t-shirt. April 29, 2009 - 7:00PM Guitar Trader San Diego, CA May 1, 2009 - 7:00PM Northwest Guitars Bellevue, WA May 1, 2009 - 7:00PM Musicmakers Austin, TX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jon Chappell Posted May 5, 2009 Author Members Share Posted May 5, 2009 Here's the YouTube video showing GXT in action. [YOUTUBE]MZHl--Fyzkk&[/YOUTUBE] Vox is pushing the guitar extraction features, but of course the JamVox can do much more, including providing a nice practice interface that lets you drag and drop effects to create a whole signal chain. I'm wondering how Vox's "JamVox karaoke nights" are going. Any word from folks in San Diego, Bellevue, or Austin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AL-Right Review Posted May 14, 2011 Members Share Posted May 14, 2011 i have a jam vox i really like it ..nice tool i like the GXT to remove guitar parts from songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jamdogg Posted May 15, 2011 Members Share Posted May 15, 2011 I love mine, although haven't used it in a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members AL-Right Review Posted May 15, 2011 Members Share Posted May 15, 2011 [video=youtube;8JGCetHzC6I] me to i use it as a speaker most of the time ,,nice monitor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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