Members BuleriaChk Posted February 24, 2008 Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 Hi, Does anyone know if there are ANY drum machines that has a decent natural handclap sample. I'm a Flamenco guitarist, and I have numerous samples recorded from records, myself, etc. that I can use in Live or Sonar, but I would really like a beat box. All the samples I've heard so far (Boss, Alesis, Roland, Zoom drum machines) are wimpy and/or sound like several people clapping slightly off time, if they aren't simply produced from noise generators. Even the "Flamenco" sample on the Roland pad machine sounded awful....what are these people thinking? The exception was the Zoom Streetboxx which had 35 noises they called "clapz" which were just dumb sounds made by someone with a weird effects processor.... For an example of what I'm searching for just listen to any traditional flamenco recording (say from the '70s) with real gitanos doing palmas in compas to Bulerias......... Sheesh! I'd be happy with just one (secas or sordas) clear crisp handclap. Or just provide me with a couple of sample slots in a drum kit, for crissakes... I'm waiting for the SR-18, but I don't have much hope.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted February 24, 2008 Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 You have Live. Therefore, you have Impulse. Ergo, record yourself clapping several times in different positions in front of the microphone and layer those samples - or maybe invite a few others, chop those samples into pieces and load 'm up in Impulse. If you can't be with the sound you love, sample the sound you're with . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BuleriaChk Posted February 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 Just to be clear... I have NUMEROUS samples and loops I've created myself for use in Ableton Live and SONAR (not to mention Fruity Loops) ... I just don't want to take my computer to gigs for a number of (obvious, I think) reasons.... I have a number of Impulse drumkits I've created as well for Flamenco.... I will probably eventually get the Boss RC50 or the Digitech Jamman, but these each have their limitations (a two second interval required to change loops on Jamman, and only 3 phrase loops per patch in the RC50 - and there is a pause when changing patches in the RC50 as well, at least when I was testing it...) You have Live. Therefore, you have Impulse. Ergo, record yourself clapping several times in different positions in front of the microphone and layer those samples - or maybe invite a few others, chop those samples into pieces and load 'm up in Impulse. If you can't be with the sound you love, sample the sound you're with . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted February 24, 2008 Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 You could consider a small sampler like an SP-404 or someting like it, which could also handle other specialized sample duties for you . (or even something older/cheaper) - Yamaha SU-10, SP-202/303, Zoom SampleTrak, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members drxcm Posted February 24, 2008 Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 Get a hardware sampler then, perhaps a Korg ES-1 or one of the many Roland groovebox type ones.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BuleriaChk Posted February 24, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 24, 2008 The problem is that none of these samplers do 3/4 meter (crucial for Flamenco) time until you get into the big, heavy versions (if then). (I don't think the SampleTrak is available any more), and none of them have USB cabability for importing loops.) The exception is the AKAI MPC series but the MPC500 that doesn't have pattern play (well, sort of, but very awkward). The MPC1000 is too big to fit on my motorcycle...... None of these solutions is a convenient as, say, the Zoom RT-223 if ONLY it had a decent handclap sample.... The rC50 is probably my best alternative if I have to use sampled loops - the time stretching for percussive loops isn't that bad, but I don't know if I can live with 3 phrases per (continuous) song. There are a number of loop/sample machine alternatives; I was asking about a simple, dumb drum machine with a MIDI sequencer with a decent handclap.... You could consider a small sampler like an SP-404 or someting like it, which could also handle other specialized sample duties for you . (or even something older/cheaper) - Yamaha SU-10, SP-202/303, Zoom SampleTrak, etc. BTW, here is a version of palmas (handclapping) accompaniment in 3/4 that was done with an old TR-707 (as I remember) in the late 80's .... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gL7wL5m1xIg Here is the sound I'm talking about: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVxUe5hA_yw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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