Members Stoertebeker Posted May 15, 2006 Members Share Posted May 15, 2006 With this piece I tried to integrate elements from the genres rock (guitar), classic (strings, clean guitar) and techno (beat, bass). Now I need your fresh ears:Does this work out? What are your pros and cons on composition, arrangement, produciton, etc MP3, 1.6 MB Tranceguitar.mp3 I'm looking forward to your comments! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesway Posted May 16, 2006 Members Share Posted May 16, 2006 okay, honestly, it's way too overproduced for me in its sound and the reverb is screamin'! i'm much more organic in my personal tastes, but you shouldn't care about that. so now that i got that off my chest, let's talk about the song. it's obviously not "done," from my perspective.it's a single melody that reminds me of nintendo's "zelda"; don't be offended, i loved that {censored}ing game. but there's no change at all, man. i think you need a B section. and i'm not feeling all the thumb harmonics, but that's again a personal thing. i was waiting for a cut time/break section in the drums. that might be a good foundation for the next part. it has a real filmscore thing going on in the string arrangement. that might be a market for this. if you're asking whether or not i can see the influences, i'd have to say you're successful in what you're trying to get across, but finish it. you're a good guitarist, assuming that is you, and i think your playing is very tight and clean. you should be happy with that. i just need more song. so far, good work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members squirrelsolvent Posted May 16, 2006 Members Share Posted May 16, 2006 It isn't bad, but it doesn't stand out-- It needs a groove and a hook. Sounds kind of like Pachabel's Canon, and yeah I noticed Zelda at a couple points too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members darins Posted May 16, 2006 Members Share Posted May 16, 2006 Great playing! I hear one progression throughout, with the only variation being arrangement. While a signature hook or melody would be great, that progression can also be the featured element of the song. To make that work though, I think you need more variation in the arrangement, and more frequently that what you have here (which is essentially intro/body/outro, and the main distinction is the presence or absence of the drums). A consistent, repeated, built-upon melody, even a very, very simple one - would help a lot. Experiment and see what you come up with. Don't be afraid to try adding 'B' section that changes pace, and gives a listener something different to chew on. For a song like this, I think it would have to be placed correctly, with an appropriate path back into the main progression. Keep it up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Stoertebeker Posted June 10, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 10, 2006 Originally posted by bluesway i was waiting for a cut time/break section in the drums. that might be a good foundation for the next part. ..., but finish it. Originally posted by squirrelsolven It needs a groove and a hook Originally posted by darins A consistent, repeated, built-upon melody, even a very, very simple one - would help a lot. Experiment and see what you come up with.... with an appropriate path back into the main progression. As you command: New version Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members justaguy88 Posted June 10, 2006 Members Share Posted June 10, 2006 It sounds very 80's. That or I picture someone riding a white stallion through a forest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stikygum Posted June 16, 2006 Members Share Posted June 16, 2006 Bluesway mentioned it's a little over the top. It is definitely up in your face, which can be a good thing. It has that film score feel to it. For a song, like everyone mentioned it needs some other elements, depth, and variety in sound to make a song. Might work for film scores, but for commercial songs, I think not. That's me though. At first I was thinking everyone mentioning the 'B' section' were talking about changing to the key of B Major. And I was thinking how can you hear what key it's in (right now I'm trying to tell by ear more). But I see the B reference is for the ABABCB arrangment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesway Posted June 16, 2006 Members Share Posted June 16, 2006 Originally posted by justaguy88 It sounds very 80's. That or I picture someone riding a white stallion through a forest. i don't want to contribute to anyone being put down here, but this is a very funny comment! i think i'm going to listen to the new version now . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bluesway Posted June 16, 2006 Members Share Posted June 16, 2006 the wah sound is a bit out of rhythm.....the break section/B section is a huge improvement. if i remember correctly, you had a hell of a lot more reverb on it before, so that's a big improvement in getting rid of it, too. as i listen, i keep going back to that wah; it needs revisiting. in a song like this, the goal is total perfection and you almost have it in the up section. this should be redone or else you're going to by 'that guitarist'.(in other words, fix the rhythm issues in the wah, or else you're going to be supporting the old guitarist stereotype: "yeah, he can play fast, but his meter is nonexistent!" [yeah, there's the reading stereotype, too, but i'm not talking about that!]) the slow down section felt a little too mechanical for me, but i guess that's exacly what it was, right? i don't feel like it was too well executed, but i like the idea you had there. it was another in a long list of improvements. the prod is just not my style and there's real truth to the 80's comment that guy made up there. it does sound dated. the guitar tone/thumb harmonics/fingertapping/even melody are a bit retro, but for my taste, not retro enough. i think 60's and 70's were infinitely cooler musical decades, personally...don't hang up on that, though. there are a lot of people who loved the 80's. (you'd probably go over in the latin rock community very well. . . they love that {censored} down here!) all in all, i think you made HUGE, HUGE improvements to this track. yeah, i think there's more to be made, but i also think that you should put this project away for a while and start something new with a different sound completely. revisit it after a few months with 'refreshed ears'. you might have a totally different perspective and be ready to 'finish' it. ps - you really do have some monster chops, man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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