Members STRANDMAN1 Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 I'm an on and off song writer. I can't say that I've dedicated myself to learning that part of the art at all. But, once in awhile a concept will hit me that I think is worth writing down. Please forgive the recording quality or lack of it. That's another thing I've never really put my mind to. http://soundcloud.com/user911307114/las-vegas-blues/s-XNPJZ LAS VEGAS BLUES My Cadillac broke down on the highwayAin't gonna make another tripThat old Caddy broke down on the highwayShe ain't never gonna make another tripI got a motel room in VegasBout a half mile off the strip I see the lights from the casinoShining in the parking lotI see the lights from the casinoThrough my window shining in the parking lotThey tell me life's to short to worryBout the things that I ain't got My woman takes my moneyAnd she push it on down that slotMy woman takes all my moneyAnd she push it on down that casino slotThen she turns around and says honeyWhy you worry bout what you no longer got That's the Las Vegas Blues Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marshal Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 A couple of things. The blues is a well worn art form. Highly structured. Highly familiar. The good news is you can work on familiar themes and jsut throw a twist or two in there and get something cool going. With that in mind, You're doing well, except there are a couple of disconnects I feel when I hear this story. First: I don't get how the lights in the parking lot could ever tell you not to worry. Especially since your car just broke down, and you're about to lose all your money. That's incongruous. Secondly: The woman's comment "Why you worry bout what you no longer got." is twisted bad grammatically, even for jive talk. And it doesn't sound believable. I'd expect her to say "Easy come easy go." or, "I need more money. Is that all you got?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 First: I don't get how the lights in the parking lot could ever tell you not to worry. Especially since your car just broke down, and you're about to lose all your money. That's incongruous. Secondly: The woman's comment "Why you worry bout what you no longer got." is twisted bad grammatically, even for jive talk. And it doesn't sound believable. I'd expect her to say "Easy come easy go." or, "I need more money. Is that all you got?" I disagree with the first point. Part of the reason the lights are there is to lure people into the game. However I don't think it works for the lyric to talk about the motel's parking lot. It feels like a disconnect from the fact that this guy's car broke down in the desert. The car is either still out in the desert or it's been towed to the nearest garage. So why is he talking about the parking lot? Also, the last line of the second verse doesn't land the way it should. One thing about a blues song, particularly one like this, is that the last line of each verse acts as a sort of punchline that sums up the character's predicament. I agree that the third verse needs work. I think it's an interesting narrative progression to go from a) a Cadillac breaking down on the highway to b) the lights of the city luring the guy to try to win enough money to fix his car and leave town to c) a woman taking him for all he's got and leaving him worse off than before. That's a damn good narrative for a blues song. It's just that for me the third verse is a big let down. It doesn't really cap the story the way it should, plus the writing is kind of sloppy. The twisted grammar Marshal pointed out is just one problem. Another is that you're using rhymes from the second verse that were okay the first time around but aren't so fresh the second. Also, where did this woman come from, all of a sudden? I had the impression that this guy was alone, driving through the desert. Now he's got a woman using up what little money he's got left? My Cadillac broke down on the highwayAin't gonna make another tripThat old Caddy broke down on the highwayShe ain't never gonna make another tripMy babe and me hitch-hiked to VegasBout a half mile off the strip We see the lights from the casinosparkling brighter than a star We see the lights from the casinobrighter than the brightest star They tell me life's to short to worry'bout some busted up old car. The narrative progression from this point on would be that she gambles away all his money. But if his car is bad enough off that he can't fix it, and he has to hitch-hike into town (which, admittedly, is my addition to the story), then where does he get the money she loses for him? The only other thing he can lose at this point is the woman, probably to another man, one who's actually got some money, and probably a lot of it. So that should probably be what the last verse is about. I think you have some good elements going for you, and the music is good. The song just needs a little clarity as to what's really going on with these characters rather than a vague sense of things. LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldgitplayer Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 In addition to what the other guys said, if I'm going to listen to any 2012 white man's electric blues, he needs to bring something that Muddy or the Wolf et al, didn't already do much better. I need to be stopped in my tracks saying, "Oh - I like what he's doing there".So ironing out the creases in the lyric is one thing, but musically I'd like it to explore some new territory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 In addition to what the other guys said, if I'm going to listen to any 2012 white man's electric blues, he needs to bring something that Muddy or the Wolf et al, didn't already do much better.I need to be stopped in my tracks saying, "Oh - I like what he's doing there".So ironing out the creases in the lyric is one thing, but musically I'd like it to explore some new territory. I would agree if Strandman were something more than just a neophyte songwriter. You have to start somewhere, and this is a pretty good start for someone who hasn't written that much yet. It's a little unrealistic to expect him to outdo Muddy Waters at this stage of the game. LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members oldgitplayer Posted August 21, 2012 Members Share Posted August 21, 2012 I would agree if Strandman were something more than just a neophyte songwriter. You have to start somewhere, and this is a pretty good for someone who hasn't written that much yet. It's a little unrealistic to expect him to outdo Muddy Waters at this stage of the game.LCK I wasn't suggesting that he outdo Muddy or the Wolf. People like Mike Bloomfield (and others) started bringing something else to a black man's genre in the mid-60's, and hundreds of writers and players have built on the genre since.I was suggesting that Strandman feel free to experiment and attract our attention with a little innovation.He's doing it by setting his song in Las Vegas slot-machine country - maybe he can bring something of what Las Vegas represents into the supporting music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Marshal Posted August 22, 2012 Members Share Posted August 22, 2012 I disagree with the first point. Part of the reason the lights are there is to lure people into the game. However I don't think it works for the lyric to talk about the motel's parking lot. It feels like a disconnect from the fact that this guy's car broke down in the desert. The car is either still out in the desert or it's been towed to the nearest garage. So why is he talking about the parking lot? Also, the last line of the second verse doesn't land the way it should. One thing about a blues song, particularly one like this, is that the last line of each verse acts as a sort of punchline that sums up the character's predicament. I agree that the third verse needs work. I think it's an interesting narrative progression to go from a) a Cadillac breaking down on the highway to b) the lights of the city luring the guy to try to win enough money to fix his car and leave town to c) a woman taking him for all he's got and leaving him worse off than before. That's a damn good narrative for a blues song. It's just that for me the third verse is a big let down. It doesn't really cap the story the way it should, plus the writing is kind of sloppy. The twisted grammar Marshal pointed out is just one problem. Another is that you're using rhymes from the second verse that were okay the first time around but aren't so fresh the second. Also, where did this woman come from, all of a sudden? I had the impression that this guy was alone, driving through the desert. Now he's got a woman using up what little money he's got left? My Cadillac broke down on the highway Ain't gonna make another trip That old Caddy broke down on the highway She ain't never gonna make another trip My babe and me hitch-hiked to Vegas Bout a half mile off the stripWe see the lights from the casino sparkling brighter than a star We see the lights from the casino brighter than the brightest star They tell me life's to short to worry 'bout some busted up old car. The narrative progression from this point on would be that she gambles away all his money. But if his car is bad enough off that he can't fix it, and he has to hitch-hike into town (which, admittedly, is my addition to the story), then where does he get the money she loses for him? The only other thing he can lose at this point is the woman, probably to another man, one who's actually got some money, and probably a lot of it. So that should probably be what the last verse is about. I think you have some good elements going for you, and the music is good. The song just needs a little clarity as to what's really going on with these characters rather than a vague sense of things. LCK Nice. . . . , except with the disagree part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted August 22, 2012 Members Share Posted August 22, 2012 Nice. . . . , except with the disagree part. Sorry about that! LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members STRANDMAN1 Posted August 25, 2012 Author Members Share Posted August 25, 2012 Thanks for the feedback guys. It's well taken. When I wrote the song I had been living in Vegas for about 15 years and had a number of local musician friends that I hung out with. So, I wasn't thinking of this guy so much as passing through but rather as a musician who was living the life there. Of course I didn't say that so I'm thinking I need to make that known which might help explain what I'm trying to say overall and where his woman came from rather than having her just drop in from nowhere. My question is, do you think this should even be a Blues song at all? What "Marshall" had to say ("The blues is a well worn art form. Highly structured") got me thinking that I've been trying to write a narrative here and perhaps given the structure of 12 bar blues I might be better off to turn it into some sort of Roots Folk thing or even a "cry in your beer" Country ballad with the idea of using a format better suited to story telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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