Members Jolber Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 Hey folks! Completely new to the whole frontmanning buissiness, I wouldn't classify myself as a completely crap singer, but I am miles off fantastic. I very much intend to have vocal lessons, however, it seems we have a gig booked in a month or two's time, so can only improve so much. For that reason, a little nudge from pitch correcting wouldn't go a miss, but I fully intend to disable the feature though once I've worked furiously on my skills over the summer. Other than that, I'm looking for good harmony options and options to fatten up my sound and just give it less of a dry (almost whiny) sound. At the minute, to me its a toss up between the Boss VE-20 and the Harmony G-XT (if someone could confirm the quality of this model's pitch correction, I reckon I'll go with it). Any other suggestions would be much appreciated Thanks in advance! Andy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted April 25, 2010 Members Share Posted April 25, 2010 For that reason, a little nudge from pitch correcting wouldn't go a miss, but I fully intend to disable the feature though once I've worked furiously on my skills over the summer. Yeah, right. I'm down with that. Seriously, though, I love the TC Helicon stuff, but I do NOT think much of the pitch correction now available on the Harmony-G XT. It sounds especially artificial, and it can't be controlled--it's either on or off, and even turning it off is not easy or intuitive. A big disappointment. The Harmony-G XT itself is a true gem. I use it live and it's really impressive in tone quality, effects and harmony generation. The VoceTone Correct pedal offers real, usable pitch correction. It's easy to use, it's adjustable, and it can easily be turned off. Not that we'd ever use it, of course. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jolber Posted April 26, 2010 Author Members Share Posted April 26, 2010 Thank you for the response In regards to the unnatural sounding pitch correct on the Harmony G-XT, how does it compare to the Boas Ve-20 (shown at the very beginning of this video: Are there any videos out there demonstrating the G-XT's feature? Finally, the majority of our songs are very riff heavy, so apparantly this would confuse the G-XT. If I'm just using it purely for vocal without a guitar connected, will i be missing out on functionality/will it still work well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jersey Jack Posted April 27, 2010 Members Share Posted April 27, 2010 Sorry, but I have no experience with the Boss vocal processor. You link to the company's promotional video, which is of course going to be perfect! I don't think the Harmony-G will work very well without a guitar running through it. It is designed to generate harmonies from the chords played on the guitar, and it will have no way to determine the harmonic context without the guitar. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Miket156 Posted May 1, 2010 Members Share Posted May 1, 2010 I'm not a fan of Pitch Correction either. It moves your notes to the closest note in a chromatic scale, so if your singing is way off, it will sound worse instead of better. I don't use it on my Digitech Vocalist. I would suggest you look at Digitech Vocalist models too, before you buy something. There are a lot of TC Helicon fans on this site. They make great sounding harmonizers, but they are not the only show in town. I don't know any particulars about the models you listed, but I do know that TC Helicon Harmonizers have been known to be more difficult to use than Digitech. However, the have an excellent sound. They're a little more expensive, but if you shop around, a lower price that advertised price can be found on most everything. No matter what harmonizer you buy, here's a few suggestions. If you are the lead singer, if you are interested in generating harmonies, have a backup singer provide the harmony instead of you. As a lead singer, you need the flexibility to sing spontaneously and not have to worry about harmonies being correct, so that might limit what you do creatively. I've read that some bands have a guitar player playing straight chords into their harmonizer, and singing one part while the harmonizer sings the second and/or third harmony. It makes sense, if you think about it. Don't under estimate the value of taking vocal training. You can learn how to breathe properly and sing from your diaphragm instead of taxing your throat in the matter of a few lessons. A vocal trainer will give you practice drills to learn while you are at home working on sharpening up your skills. In a few months you will be glad you got some training. Unless your are tone deaf and can't sing a lick, you will improve. Cheers, Mike T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MikeyParent Posted May 13, 2010 Members Share Posted May 13, 2010 I have a VE-20 and frankly I don't think the "natural" pitch correction is that great but to be honest I don't really use it... I will say its a solid little pedal and (for me) a much better replacement for my old Vocal 300 than the TC Create pedal was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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