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Caleb B

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So, I've been playing guitar for about a year and I'm pretty good at Acoustic and Electric. So far I've only learned to play and sing one song, which is this one:

. Anyways, I'm just curious on the basic technique of writing a song because I've been wanting to write an Acoustic song. I understand the basics just from learning so many songs, but I don't know how to apply lyrics to a chord pattern or anything like that. More of what I'm curious to know is how do I know how to sing, pitch wise I suppose, during certain chords and things like that. Do I just sing my lyrics until they sound good or are there some certain rules? I'd appreciate any help.
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I'm not sure what you're asking--when you say you want to know how to sing... during certain chords do you mean stylistically or technically? If style is the concern there is no substitute for simply trying out different pronunciations, vocal timbres, etc. If your concerns are technical, then you may want to get a songwriting book, which will give you the basics of what scales work over what chords, etc. You then construct melodies by trying out various note patterns from the proper scale.

 

But it strikes me that you're thinking way too much about this stuff--in classical composition one used music theory, but if you want to write pop songs you just make up some words and chords and sing along until something good comes along. (:idk: What, that's all there is to it, right?) Then pose for the cameras and book your tour. :rolleyes:

 

By the way, your clip sounds great! My only concern is the pitch correction, which seems overdone to my ears--though I've become hyper-sensitive to this kind of sound lately.

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I'm not sure what you're asking--when you say you want to know
how to sing... during certain chords
do you mean stylistically or technically? If style is the concern there is no substitute for simply trying out different pronunciations, vocal timbres, etc. If your concerns are technical, then you may want to get a songwriting book, which will give you the basics of what scales work over what chords, etc. You then construct melodies by trying out various note patterns from the proper scale.


But it strikes me that you're thinking way too much about this stuff--in classical composition one used music theory, but if you want to write pop songs you just make up some words and chords and sing along until something good comes along. (
:idk:
What, that's all there is to it, right?) Then pose for the cameras and book your tour.
:rolleyes:

By the way, your clip sounds great! My only concern is the pitch correction, which seems overdone to my ears--though I've become hyper-sensitive to this kind of sound lately.

Well, what I'm wanting to know is very basic, I just can't figure out how to word it. It's kind of frustrating, hah. How do I sing to match the chords I'm playing? Like, you can't sing in any pitch you want and expect it to sound good over everything, some things sound good and some don't. I don't have any singing lessons or anything, I'm just naturally an okay singer, so sorry I can't explain this better. Also, that's not me singing in the link I put in the OP, that's the actual band.

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Okay, then the answer is to learn a bit of music theory. In standard western music, each song has a KEY, which is normally linked to a major or a minor scale. Usually (but not always) the first chord defines the key, so a song that begins in C is normally in the key of C. You then look up the notes of the C major scale--all of the white keys on the piano between C and C--and use those notes to construct a melody. Look at Wikipedia (or some other site) to get scale definitions. The major exception to the use of major/minor scales is the blues, which uses a version of the dominant 7th scale, with flatted 3rds and 5ths. :cool:

 

But, again, I think it's just as effective (probably more effective) to use your ear--if a note doesn't sound good, try another one. ;)

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Okay, then the answer is to learn a bit of music theory. In standard western music, each song has a KEY, which is normally linked to a major or a minor scale. Usually (but not always) the first chord defines the key, so a song that begins in C is normally in the key of C. You then look up the notes of the C major scale--all of the white keys on the piano between C and C--and use those notes to construct a melody. Look at Wikipedia (or some other site) to get scale definitions. The major exception to the use of major/minor scales is the blues, which uses a version of the dominant 7th scale, with flatted 3rds and 5ths.
:cool:

But, again, I think it's just as effective (probably
more effective
) to use your ear--if a note doesn't sound good, try another one.
;)

Thanks, that does clarify it a lot for me. I appreciate it. Yea, I'll probably end up doing that, I have a pretty good ear so why not use it? :thu:

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