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Adding BBDs to an Ibanez AD-202


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I really dig my AD202 ..

 

I opened the unit and maxed, out, the clock trimmer and got some

additional delay time out of,,, and it's not too gritty, either.

 

David Barber talks about stacking opamps in tube screamer styled

pedals to get more gain; and/or swapping various kinds of chips

also. Basically you stack 2 or more chips together aligning their

pins, and then soldering them together, and plugging the stack

back into the chip socket .

 

With this general principle in mind, I'm wondering if I can add

BBD chips to my AD202 along w/ the driver chips and get more

delay time ?

 

The interior of the unit is cavernous, so unlike a pedal there is

definitely plenty of room ... is it not quite that simple ?

 

Will stacking a few more chips together, produce the desired effect,

or do they need to be wired into the circuit board differently ?

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I haven't peeked inside an AD-100 but, given the era, and that

it's the same company, I don't see why it'd be any different..

 

so ..

 

The trimmers are right on the circuit board and are labeled, as to

what they're for . IIRC, I turned the 'clock' trimmer, down, in the

section marked "delay". The unit was plugged in, along with

my guitar strapped 'round my neck, so, I immediately, heard the

delay time stretch, out, as I turned the trimmer .:D

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Originally posted by Umma Gumma

I haven't peeked inside an AD-100 but, given the era, and that

it's the same company, I don't see why it'd be any different..

 

Exactly what I was thinking :)

 

Originally posted by Umma Gumma



so ..


The trimmers are right on the circuit board and are labeled, as to

what they're for . IIRC, I turned the 'clock' trimmer, down, in the

section marked "delay". The unit was plugged in, along with

my guitar strapped 'round my neck, so, I immediately, heard the

delay time stretch, out, as I turned the trimmer .
:D

 

Ahh cool, labelled makes it easier. I had a Ibanez DML10II that had 7-8 trims but they were labelled in shorthand or something :freak:

 

Thanks

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Well I opened her up and the trim pots were labelled. I tweaked the clock trim and only had marginal success in extracting more delay time - no more than 100ms at best. I't's hard to gague by ear. I didn't notice any serious degradation in the repeat quality...because my attention was distracted by the chip whine that had developed, especially when the delay knob was rolled past 75%. So I tweaked the trim back (I think even further back than it was set when I opened it up) until the whine was just barely noticeable with the delay pot maxed. Doesn't sound like it has any less delay time than pre tweak and the whine is completely absent with the casing back on. This makes me wonder how far I could have tweaked it since the casing appears to provide some kind of shielding role against noise, but I don't have the patience for that so will just let it be.

 

Also, the MN3005 chip was socketed. Is that usual, or is it likely my unit has already been taken for repair and the socket is the work of a technician? In hindsight I should've checked the soldering at back of the board for a clue..

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Originally posted by Seth Carmody

Well I opened her up and the trim pots were labelled. I tweaked the clock trim and only had marginal success in extracting more delay time - no more than 100ms at best. I't's hard to gauge by ear. I didn't notice any serious degradation in the repeat quality...because my attention was distracted by the chip whine that had developed, especially when the delay knob was rolled past 75%. So I tweaked the trim back (I think even further back than it was set when I opened it up) until the whine was just barely noticeable with the delay pot maxed. Doesn't sound like it has any less delay time than pre tweak and the whine is completely absent with the casing back on.


 

Chip whine ?

 

Hmm, I haven't noticed that .. I wonder if I should listen for it ?

 

Nahh, I better, not .:freak::D

 

Also, the MN3005 chip was socketed. Is that usual, or is it likely my unit has already been taken for repair and the socket is the work of a technician? In hindsight I should've checked the soldering at back of the board for a clue..

 

I can't remember if mine has sockets, or not; it's been a few weeks

since I was inside, there.

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Originally posted by basscracker

looks like you could swap the MN3007 for another MN3005 for more delay time.

 

You're probably right but you'll play hell trying to calibrate this if you don't have an o-scope..could be fun to try 'though...(stock delay time is 40-400ms)

 

:thu:

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