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John McLaughlin's gear (NEVER thought I'd be posting something like this...)

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  • John McLaughlin's gear (NEVER thought I'd be posting something like this...)

    Okay, in the Wilco thread, McLaughlin's work on Miles Davis' Jack Johnson and Bitches Brew has come up.

    I've dug around and found that he used a Mustang while working with Miles. Just wondering if anyone knows what amps, effects, etc. he was using during these sessions/this time period. Thanks in advance for any help.

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    Well I can't add much, but Mustang (strung with heavy flatwounds, sounds right) into a Fender tube amp (probably Deluxe Reverb). The Dunlop Crybaby Classic sounds right for the wah. Fuzz: No real idea. Probably an Echoplex in there too, both for delay and pre-amp capabilities.

    I'd be even more curious to know what effects setup Pete Cosey was using with Miles. There's some crazy sounds on the live albums. I know he had a Telecaster going into primitive guitar synth (Sythi Hi-Fli) but that's all I know.

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    • #3
      here are the guitars mclaughlin used in that time with some comments from him. dont know about what amp etc


      Here

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      • #4
        ok... maybe for the ones who wanna guess. this is a picture from mclaughlin with miles. ofcourse it could be a total different amp as in the studio.


        i also read 'somewere' that he was not using a mustang but a modified musicmaster. dont know. maybe the picture can set some light on that also.

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        • #5
          When I started playing in 72' John and Steve Howe were my guitar teachers only thru their albums though....I learned John's "Birds of Fire" and the "Yes~Fragile" album.......those cats cook heat up the ol' fretboard.........

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          • #6
            My eagle-eyed little brother and ex-member of this beloved forum, BGB22, verified that the guitar in the pic is indeed a Musicmaster. I'd forgotten about those. A buddy of mine in college, who joined me in an infamous performance as backing band for Jerry Springer, had a 60's one of them.

            The amp, both of us think, is most likely a Sunn or even a Hi-Watt. Who knows?

            The problem with this little bit of detection is that it started BOTH of us gassing....him for a Jaguar and me for a Mustang.

            Either way, if you've not heard "Duran (Take 4)" from the Jack Johnson Sessions boxed set, then you've not heard ****************y funky! Funk-a-licious! Tasty horn! Tasty, mouthy wah & fuzz! And drums up the ass! If you really need to hear it, PM me with your email.

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            • #7
              So what's the weird little guitar John McLaughlin is playing on the Crossroads DVD?
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              • #8
                I interviewed Richard Mintz, who designed and built a lot of the early Maestro effects, and he told me about working with the Mahavishu Orchestra. He said John McLaughlin, Jan Hammer, and Jerry Goodman were all using various Maestro pedals. You can definitely hear a lot of phaser and wah on Goodman's violin solos. So considering the date ('71-'73), these guys were definitely using the Maestro PS-1. MXR and Mu-Tron weren't on the scene yet. You can hear McLaughlin using the PS-1 a lot on Visions of the Emerald Beyond .
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                • #9
                  John Mclaughlin is noisy. So is Bitches Brew.
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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by billygrahamcracker


                    Either way, if you've not heard "Duran (Take 4)" from the Jack Johnson Sessions boxed set, then you've not heard ****************y funky! Funk-a-licious! Tasty horn! Tasty, mouthy wah & fuzz! And drums up the ass! If you really need to hear it, PM me with your email.


                    yes... great track. nice to hear the differences with take 6 of the same song.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by BmoreTele
                      So what's the weird little guitar John McLaughlin is playing on the Crossroads DVD?


                      I'm quite sure that's a Godin LG XT. This has been McLaughlin's guitar of choice for the last year. He's been using it with the latest incarnation of Shakti.

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                      • #12
                        Just a sidenote, I had the privilege of building Billy Cobham's drum kit when I worked for the drum company Fibes around 1972. Here's a backstage (mirror) pic of John McLaughlin, I'm the one blowing smoke out of my mouth, and there's Cobham behind me. This shot was taken after the performance and McLaughlin is seen there jamming with Jan Hammer (not in pic). I guess they didn't care to take a break! Both were plugged into a Fender Champ or Princeton. Hammer had one of those guitar-slinging type keyboards.

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                        • #13
                          Mike, thanks for a glimpse back into the great early seventies!
                          Your hair cut was absolutely the right one for the times(compared to Mr. Shakti).
                          I used to listen to Spectrum that was released the year after, I think. Did Cobham use the Fibes drums on that recording?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by Mike McLenison
                            Just a sidenote, I had the privilege of building Billy Cobham's drum kit when I worked for the drum company Fibes around 1972. Here's a backstage (mirror) pic of John McLaughlin, I'm the one blowing smoke out of my mouth, and there's Cobham behind me. This shot was taken after the performance and McLaughlin is seen there jamming with Jan Hammer (not in pic). I guess they didn't care to take a break! Both were plugged into a Fender Champ or Princeton. Hammer had one of those guitar-slinging type keyboards.



                            Wow! Thanks for sharing! Little bit o' history, huh?

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                            • #15
                              Your welcome guys. I'm not sure if Cobham used Fibes drums during the Spectrum album. I would guess he did as the time frame was close. He used a "smoke" finish at that concert, which was greenish-clear. Frank Zappa and Leo Kotke were also on the bill that night.

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