Members Adan_V Posted July 20, 2003 Members Share Posted July 20, 2003 Family & Friends Dont Count as Audience. I stand by it. Why?Because family and friends show support for the band despite whether the band is talented or horrible. I have seen many Battle of the Bands where usually the worst band wins the competition because of the high number of votes they receive, votes that came from family and friends. Even some where the better bands are taunted and boo'ed by family and friends of the worst bands, just to try to ruin their performance and reputation. Who agrees with me? Who Doesnt?Give some good opinions and feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members fidiot Posted July 21, 2003 Members Share Posted July 21, 2003 I completely agree with you. It's always frustrating to me when I play a new song (on acoustic) in front of the people that I know, and they always say "It was great!", when I know that I made a few mistakes, and the lyrics kind of suck, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BlueStrat Posted July 21, 2003 Members Share Posted July 21, 2003 If a band wants to see how good they really are, let them go play a gig 200 miles from home and see if they get asked back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members buzzcut Posted July 21, 2003 Members Share Posted July 21, 2003 Originally posted by Adan_V Who agrees with me? Who Doesnt?Give some good opinions and feedback. This is pretty much the truth. My wife and my best friend would be the rare exceptions. They are brutally honest and sometimes it does zing a bit after putting a lot of time into a song (Recording in my case but when I was in a band, my wife would tell me later whether we were good or bad). On the upside, when they say it's good, I believe them. But basically you are correct, especially in a battle of the bands. It's understandable that people would support their friends and stuff but I think it's totally crap that they would boo the other bands. You may sit back among your band mates and critique the other bands but as long as you don't boo them, I think that's cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kreatorkind Posted July 21, 2003 Members Share Posted July 21, 2003 Originally posted by BlueStrat If a band wants to see how good they really are, let them go play a gig 200 miles from home and see if they get asked back. That's a really {censored}ing great test! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spinman Posted July 21, 2003 Members Share Posted July 21, 2003 I don't know how big your families are or how many friends you have, but if you want to have any sort of success it's going to take more people than that. Friends get tired of supporting you after a while anyway. I don't think much about "battle of the bands" things anyway. Like you say, they're mostly rigged, and they don't make a career anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members FuzzBob Posted July 21, 2003 Members Share Posted July 21, 2003 Originally posted by BlueStrat If a band wants to see how good they really are, let them go play a gig 200 miles from home and see if they get asked back. +1 If you have a draw of 0 in the town you're playing that night, then take the opening slot. Some of the headliner's audience will be there to check you out, so if you win them over, you'll earn your draw for the next time you play there (and you'll get asked back). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members whammy boy67 Posted July 21, 2003 Members Share Posted July 21, 2003 I agree that family and friends don't always count as an audience. I mean, I like it when they go because my friends don't always show up, but I never really know if they're honest when critiquing my playing and such. I also find it hard when you know everyone in the audience that showed up for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members acesclone Posted July 22, 2003 Members Share Posted July 22, 2003 Family and friends count after the first gig. I can guarantee that if you suck, your friends and family will use ALL kinds of excuses NOT to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members denise Posted July 28, 2003 Members Share Posted July 28, 2003 With small gigs, like bars and such...its your audience who is making them money. Whether it is your family friends or random people, the bar doesn't care. The more people there the better you look. Fam and friends are audience unless its your 95 year old wheel chair stricken grandparents, or they don't even support you and they just go to make you feel better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adan_V Posted July 28, 2003 Author Members Share Posted July 28, 2003 Originally posted by denise With small gigs, like bars and such...its your audience who is making them money. Whether it is your family friends or random people, the bar doesn't care. The more people there the better you look. This is exactly what I mean, the more people the better you LOOK, but just because there are a lot of people doesnt mean you ARE good. Fam and friends are audience unless its your 95 year old wheel chair stricken grandparents, or they don't even support you and they just go to make you feel better To make the band members feel better, I agree. But sooner of later they have to take those "training-wheels" off and gonna face REAL audiences by themselves. Still, you have to appreciate your friends and family for supporting you on your first show(s) but dont use (and abuse) them as ways to cheat in band contests or take home the cover money because you had the majority of the crowd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bass_n_drums Posted July 29, 2003 Members Share Posted July 29, 2003 Originally posted by Adan_V This is exactly what I mean, the more people the better you LOOK, but just because there are a lot of people doesnt mean you ARE good.Fam and friends are audience unless its your 95 year old wheel chair stricken grandparents, or they don't even support you and they just go to make you feel better To make the band members feel better, I agree. But sooner of later they have to take those "training-wheels" off and gonna face REAL audiences by themselves. Still, you have to appreciate your friends and family for supporting you on your first show(s) but dont use (and abuse) them as ways to cheat in band contests or take home the cover money because you had the majority of the crowd. Great FAQ on this topic.......friends and family are very likely to support you regardless how good or bad you are and i would much rather friends bring their other friends to check my band out and if they really like it they will be back for the next show! But yes playing another town is the true test to see if you got the goods! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brian Marshall Posted August 5, 2003 Members Share Posted August 5, 2003 You know what is funny, is no one but my friends and familly with ever tell me how bad a gig was. Drunk guys i dont know always follow me arround and tell me how great I am, usually after really bad show. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Bob Dylan's Beard Posted August 7, 2003 Members Share Posted August 7, 2003 If you ever need an ego boost, make time for those who are hammered after your set. They love your act better than your own mother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZED Posted August 7, 2003 Members Share Posted August 7, 2003 As bands build a following, many of those people become friends. They see the band many times. Do they count as an audience? They're friends. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adan_V Posted August 7, 2003 Author Members Share Posted August 7, 2003 Originally posted by ZED As bands build a following, many of those people become friends. They see the band many times. Do they count as an audience? They're friends. This is a great question. Its pretty hard to answer.... I remember playing with bands (as a reserve or temp) that played continously in the same small venues. The audience was the same pack of barflies that was there every weekend. These people soon became friends of the band, and of course they would congratulate them on how talented they are (even though I didnt think they were talented at all). But if the band played at another venue, the pack of barflies would NOT be in the audience. So I dont think they count as audience anymore. I only consider a crowd of strangers to be a real audience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ZED Posted August 9, 2003 Members Share Posted August 9, 2003 If they follow a band to different venues? And bring in more people? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Adan_V Posted August 9, 2003 Author Members Share Posted August 9, 2003 bringing more people would be great, but how often that really happens? Especially when you live in a large city. But I still like BlueStrat's quote.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members buckshot_plevna Posted August 12, 2003 Members Share Posted August 12, 2003 I kind of agree with acesclone, if your band is god awful, people will find excuses not to go, whether they're you're frineds or not. As a new band, who the hell is going to be your audience if no one has never heard of you? I don't care what club you're playing at, you're not going to get a crowd unless someone can vouch that the band is good. The best thing to do I think is to get your friend's friends to come to your shows. They don't know you and will probably tell your frined what they thought about the show. That's a good way to expand on an audience. Until you're selling out in arenas like 85% of the audience will know you some way or another. Family on the other should not count. They're family they don't have much choice but to praise you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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