Members Nicky Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Hey guys, I sold my 5080 to buy a Fantom XR. Does anyone want to swap a 5080 for a Fantom XR in mint condition? I like the Fantom but I miss the larger screen, the old JV cards, and I had programmed quite a bit of sounds for the XV5080 that I can't load into the Fantom. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 I knew this is gonna happen.. Roland should have never break the JV -> Super JV -> XP -> XV line. That's why i still have 5080, and hope Roland will continue the line. It is kind of tradition by now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nicky Posted June 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Roland should have never break the JV -> Super JV -> XP -> XV line. Over the years I owned a xp80, 60, and 30, and a jv 2080, and finally a 5080. They were all compatible patch wise so I never lost any sounds I had made going from one to another. Now I have to start all over with the Fantom xr.....don't want to. So....anyone want to buy a mint Fantom XR at a nice price?..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napalm Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Even though the Fantom XR was a major improvement over the JV/XV Synths in the sound department, IMHO, I do miss the file structure/sampler support of the XV5080... Roland made it difficult with the Fantom XR to arrange, load, & save files... I have several Smart Media Cards that each only could load/save 2 Banks of data at one time... The XV5080 could load up to 8 Banks simultaneously Plus you cannot hook up a cd rom drive to load Akai/Roland sample data... That sucks big time... There is a XV-to-Fantom file converter released, but I never tried it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Hehehe... looks like price of XV-5080 won't drop much in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nicky Posted June 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 There is a XV-to-Fantom file converter released, but I never tried it... It's not really a converter.....Roland has converted 5080 patches into xr format that you can download, but as far as I know there is no converter application to convert your own personal sounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdub Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 That converted batch of patches isn't half bad. It's mostly the factory banks of the XP series synths reprogrammed for the Fantom S/X wave ROM. They're not all perfect reproductions, but any previous XP/XV/JV owner should check them out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Originally posted by Nicky Over the years I owned a xp80, 60, and 30, and a jv 2080, and finally a 5080. They were all compatible patch wise so I never lost any sounds I had made going from one to another. Now I have to start all over with the Fantom xr.....don't want to. So....anyone want to buy a mint Fantom XR at a nice price?..... You don't have to start over. I manually transferred my favorite patches from my XP-60 to my Fantom-S. These machines are actually basically the same, with the Fantom-S adding a bunch of new features, and of course sounding better... cleaner, fuller, crisper high-end. I think that you'd find the same situation between the 5080 and the FA-XR, although the sound quality of the XV-5080 is a lot better than the XPs, so this part may not be as true. If you want to try it, initialize a patch on the Fantom. Then enter all the paramaters from the 5080 into their counterparts on the Fantom. They're all 1:1, except TVF and TVA Velocity Sensitivity... multiply those numbers by .42. All the new paramaters will be zeroed out because you did a patch initialize. Many of the older waveforms were carried over. More than you might realize at first, because they're renamed! Stupid, stupid Roland. The waveform search is the most time consuming part of this. The best of the older effects have also been carried over, but in different number positions. This is not to diss the 5080, which is an excellent box. But if you want to work with what you have.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napalm Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Originally posted by Nicky It's not really a converter.....Roland has converted 5080 patches into xr format that you can download, but as far as I know there is no converter application to convert your own personal sounds. No, someone released a freeware XV-to-Fantom X converter... It's listed at the Fantomized website... Of course I do have those XV5080 conversion Patches though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Originally posted by Napalm No, someone released a freeware XV-to-Fantom X converter... It's listed at the Fantomized website... Yeah although I haven't seen it, I'm not suprised, given the basic similarities I stated above. This is something Roland should have done as part of the Fantom S/X OS though. This company is usually pretty good about backward compatability. I don't know why they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napalm Posted June 12, 2006 Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 Originally posted by mrcpro Yeah although I haven't seen it, I'm not suprised, given the basic similarities I stated above. This is something Roland should have done as part of the Fantom S/X OS though. This company is usually pretty good about backward compatability. I don't know why they didn't. I agree... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nicky Posted June 12, 2006 Author Members Share Posted June 12, 2006 someone released a freeware XV-to-Fantom X converter... It's listed at the Fantomized website... Hey Napalm, I did a search over at the Fantomized website....the only info I could find was that there is no patch converter and that you have to convert patches manually....1 paramater at a time. Do you have a link to a converter? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Napalm Posted June 13, 2006 Members Share Posted June 13, 2006 Originally posted by Nicky Hey Napalm, I did a search over at the Fantomized website....the only info I could find was that there is no patch converter and that you have to convert patches manually....1 paramater at a time. Do you have a link to a converter? Thanks. A forum member posted the program... I could remember downloading it, but never tried and ended up deleting the software... It was actually 2 converters: JV-to-XV then XV-to-Fantom X... Maybe you could search the forum or post a topic in Sound Libraries section... Good luck with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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