TI or Q

If you could have only ONE: Virus TI or Waldorf Q, which would it be?

both!

but the Ti has that something extra special about it

I Qit.

It would be the TI.

Doesn't it really depend on what you're looking for in a synth, and subjectively, which sound you prefer? I'd choose the Q in a second because of the superior mod routings, and because I prefer the Waldorf sound over the Virus sound.

From the sound Demos Ive heard and the list of features, the TI.

Q !!!

i've got both.

but if i HAD to choose only one:

TI.

TI owner

Q+ They're roughly the same price as the TI keyboards these days.

thats a tough one - I might choose the Q based on the dedicated controls....but then I might choose the TI in lew of the slightly unfinished and retarded OS on the Q. HMMM...well Ill need to go get a TI to decide.

http://www.thomann.de/de/waldorf_q_analogsynthesizer.htm

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Could you guys even imagine if the 'New' Waldorf makes a Q+ rack!!! Holy crap, or how about a micro Q+!!! I bet those would sell like hotcakes.

TI or Q? why oh why do we have to choose. So different, I think it's lead you down completely different roads. Always listen or play them, but I'll just say as most people feel, the Virus is more accessible and has a almost analog type sound in it's filters, and the Q! has got the mods up yo butt, but it the sound is gritty and sheeny. But you need to hear both because they can attract you at first play. basically, they'll have you at Hello. Oh I just had to.

I own a mint microq and a "like new" virus redback and can honestly say that I am sick of both of 'em. Everybody's grandma has these boxes, they are standard gear for any kid starting out, and the virus is wwwwwaaaaayyyyyy overpriced. I want to get away from VA synths. Anybody want some three octave VA polysynths? I paid out the nose for both, so you will too (sorry). Oh, and if I had to choose, I would say that the waldorf sounds way better, but the virus is more fun, take your pick.

I got a really good price on a TI quoted to me from Chuck Levin's but I didn't jump (a REALLY good price). This was right before I got the PEK. I like the Virus sound, but not enough to make space for it in my kit. I think if any of the Virus models had a Q or PEK-like interface I'd have one by now but as it is the Virus doesn't really offer anything over a good poly analog (other than voice-count) and some software or a XT(k). The Virus UI is a joke. I'd rather a XTk before a Virus. The PEK is better sounding and has the digital oscillators - it just doesn't have the polyphony without some serious outlay. But it's so nice sounding five voices is plenty in favor of a Virus.

The Q, however, doesn't sound analog. It doesn't even try. You can get analog-synth-ish tones out of it for sure, but, honestly, the Q is far beyond that. It's silly to think of the Q as "another" VA because that's totally overlooking its real potential (as others have noted). If you're looking for VA sounds then skip the Q as you'll be disappointed it ain't "easier" to get "analog" from it. But as a SYNTHESIZER it's fantastic and terribly wonderful.

Well thpoked.

TI or Q+ on the same line... Q... not really ... without that analog filter...

darm,... i just can't love Q/micro Q... that pearising high frequency....

Ya, I have spewed my opinion about companies trying to push digital synths as analogue on other forums, trying to make a digital synth that "sounds" analogue is a ridiculous endeavor. It only creates something no one wants. That piercing high freq. on the waldorf is where your overtones are, more to play with. I am very jealous of anyone with a PEK right now. I guess it is the new "IT" synth, but I drool over that thing. I would trade both my redback and my waldorf for a PEK in "like new" condition or better.

Oh, and both access and waldorf advertise their synths as VAs, so you have to call them that.

P.S. I'm new here, and you guys are a lot more fun than other forums, I might stay for a while. THANX

TI

I like my synths to be

well, I got a PEK already... and its got its place for certain. I'd say its big drawback is that its always wanting to be the IT synth in your rig. No matter what you do, it jumps to the front of the line and says "screw you guys, this is my song!". I do like that about it, but sometimes it a bit overwhelming...

For me, modulation is where its at. I am therefore going to hunt up a Q.

I'll put in my vote for the ubiquitous TI as well. it's like instant synthetic beauty in my opinion.

If your budget really allows you to buy a Virus TI, hunt up a Q and an XTk for the same price.

does the TI REALLY have all the modulation capabilies of the Q? Does it even come close?

I need to downoad there manual and start readin'

Originally posted by myteeGTi does the TI REALLY have all the modulation capabilies of the Q? Does it even come close? I need to downoad there manual and start readin'

No, the TI doesn't have all the mods of the Q.

The Q also has some really nice comb filters, and those 2 wavetable oscillators.

For modulation capabilities, i don't think much beats the Alesis stuff.

Kurzweil is right up there too.

Let's not forget Emu either.

Then you've got stuff like the G2 that are pretty much in a whole different league.

I guess what I'm saying is that although the TI might not quite match the Q in the modulation area, it makes up for it in other areas.

The TI filters generally sound much better overall to me.

The effects aren't even comparable - they pretty much suck on the Q.

The TI has a whole lot more wavetables to pick from.

Besides the Wavetable and Hypersaw oscillators, there's also those different waveshapes that can be used as oscillators as well as lfo's.

If you do any sequencing at all, the TI can be a real pleasure to use.

It's also nice to be able to edit everything from the 'big screen' computer monitor as well as from the unit itself.

The 'core' sound of each is pretty different too.

I don't think it's an either/or type thing - they both fill different niches.

Nice to not have to choose....

.....squidges.