Members -groovatious- Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Don't know if you guys have seen this. I'm a massive Herbie fan but this just cracked me up something chronic. Herbie and the Rockit Band Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keanu reeves Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 im supposed to be laughing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tucktronix Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Sorry, didn't see the humor in it:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keanu reeves Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 OHHHhhh that purple bandanna that one keytar guy is wearing around his neck!! haaahahaha.. what a fag.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GregCh Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Originally posted by -groovatious- Don't know if you guys have seen this.I'm a massive Herbie fan but this just cracked me up something chronic.Herbie and the Rockit Band you 20 years ago was hilarious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Umbra Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 I gotta get me one of those blue jump suits... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 I think its funny... it looks so damn goofy... the music is pretty terrible too... how did he get away with it? all Herbie Hancocks records of that era sound like Rockit. I had the LPs Perfect Machine and Future Shock... some okay stuff on it... (I always like T.F.S the best from that period) but not a patch on his Headhunters or even his later more recent stuff... Headhunters in Japan 05 was killer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members orangefunk Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Originally posted by GregCh you 20 years ago was hilarious What does that even mean...? GregCh is upset someones laughing on Herbie "the god" Hancock...? Even Herbie would cringe at that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Silent Heart Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Originally posted by orangefunk I think its funny... it looks so damn goofy... the music is pretty terrible too... how did he get away with it? all Herbie Hancocks records of that era sound like Rockit. I had the LPs Perfect Machine and Future Shock... some okay stuff on it... (I always like T.F.S the best from that period) but not a patch on his Headhunters or even his later more recent stuff... Headhunters in Japan 05 was killer... Yep. Interesting how the older stuff holds up much better. Something about the 80s just truly, fundamentally sucked ... worst decade evar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members program_insect Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 hey now, that DJ is far out. I like his space-age earphones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 Originally posted by Silent Heart Yep. Interesting how the older stuff holds up much better. Something about the 80s just truly, fundamentally sucked ... worst decade evar eh whatever. "the eighties sucked" has been a very popular thing to say for years, before that it was popular to say "the seventies sucked", and before that it was popular to say "the sixties sucked". and this is definitely not funny, but totally {censored}ing sweet. i have the whole concert on VHS even. i like it more than that seventies Herbie stuff where he liked to spend hours showing off how he had no understanding of synthesis but decides to play knob-tweak solos anyway. _that_ is some funny {censored}. just give herbie some presets. he can deal with that, which is why the 80s stuff was so good. that and of course they're actually Bill Laswell albums with Herbie's name on them (he's good at that too: putting his name on other people's work). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members jigg Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 To be honest, there are some 'jazz elements' there, but just a couple of phrases repeated ad nauseum. You can practically hear the audience sitting there going, "Is this suppossed to be the Beverly Hills Cop Theme?"Yes, it sucks. But, it's not so much humorous as disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Members kooki_sf Posted June 21, 2006 Members Share Posted June 21, 2006 i like how even with 2 keyboards in front of him he doesnt have to do anything because of the two back up keyboardists. i like how even though its a live band they stick to loops. it almost feels like some bad groovebox demo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TheFoosa Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by jigg Here's how and why Herbie can and does live the 80's down. Acoustic Herbie! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 i finally watched the link. i thought i'd already seen it, but no ... this was new. i have a videocassette called "Herbie Hancock and the Rockit Band" which is totally amazing. here's a short review from the NYT when it came out: By JON PARELES Published: June 17, 1984 CBS/Fox Video 73 minutes. $29.95 Most of this videocassette was recorded at a London concert of Herbie Hancock's current percussive, electronic dance music. But the director, Ken O'Neil, has gone all-out to keep the video program from looking like one more concert tape. The camera moves into the audience to sample some break dancing, and the band performs amid a few of the twitching mannequins that were used in its video clip ''Rockit.'' (Contrary to the blurb on the cassette box, only excerpts from the ''Rockit'' and ''Autodrive'' clips are included.) Meanwhile, Mr. O'Neil uses rapid- fire editing and, in the course of the tape, increasing amounts of visual distortion, mimicking the mind-warping effect of an hour's nonstop dancing. Mr. Hancock is a veteran jazz pianist who has kept up-to-date with the latest gadgets and styles; the Rockit Band includes Grandmixer D. ST., whose instrument is a turntable and who makes sounds by ''scratching'' records back and forth. There's only a hint of Mr. Hancock's own pianistic lyricism and harmonic sophistication, but the band's syncopation and drive are unstoppable. sounds pretty hott, eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members BillyWa Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by suitandtieguy eh whatever. "the eighties sucked" has been a very popular thing to say for years, before that it was popular to say "the seventies sucked", and before that it was popular to say "the sixties sucked". Now, the Nineties - they really sucked! My favorite part of the VDO was Erkle on the turntables! What is Herbie's big brown synth, anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by BillyWa What is Herbie's big brown synth, anyway? Arp/Rhodes Chroma with the very rare expander. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members GregCh Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by orangefunk What does that even mean...?GregCh is upset someones laughing on Herbie "the god" Hancock...?Even Herbie would cringe at that... Nope. I have met Herbie Are you 15 years old ? In retrospect, if you are 40 or older and can see photos of yourself 20-25 years ago, I doubt you would not laff at yourself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members realtrance Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 As bad as any of it might seem in retrospect, NONE of it sucks as bad as now does. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members suitandtieguy Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 Originally posted by realtrance As bad as any of it might seem in retrospect, NONE of it sucks as bad as now does. :thu: totes. just think about how happy we'd be if there was a) popular urban youth music styles flexible enough to make room for jazz musicians with 20 years of good rep and b) open-minded jazz musicians with 20 years of good rep interested in working in those styles.* makes the eighties look like the age of enlightenment in retrospect, eh? *even if they do have to hire white people to make the album for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 But they werent pulling much out of those synths, anyway. For example, close you eyes, and load that video. It sounds like a general midi file playing on some cheap soundblaster card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chromex Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 The best Hancock , to me, and the most ignored, are his Mwandishi" sextet recordings from the early 70s pre headhunter. "Mwandishi", "Crossings" and "Sextant". That band live was also incredible. Herbie had to make a living and there are praiseworthy moments in most things he has done, including things being cherished and dismissed in this thread but , in my opinion, his heart was in the above recordings. Wire magazine had an in-depth article on that period a number of years ago and I remember being struck by how many people said that seeing that sextet live and listening to their music had altered their lives in a positive way. Would love to see any Mwandishi clips on youtube.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pizzamon Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 I gotta respond to this... Crossings is one of my favorite albums. It was made the year I was born and fits my life incredibly. Herbie is one of the pioneers of electronic music, this was before electronic music was formulated with sounds that you now have to include. I think he was having fun and probably had a good attitude about the whole thing. You know what he is capable of, and anybody can tell you it is not possible live up to that kind of hype all the time. There are some funny outfits, but people were still having fun and not taking themselves so freak'n seriously at that point. As for the comment about a style of music that both young and old could get into, I remember the high point of the Detroit music scene (the beat music, not the motown scene) pretty well. Those were incredible times and will never be reproduced because everyone is so preoccupied with imitating them. I could not even begin the exhaustive list of talent that came from the early and mid-nineties. Things are pretty boring in the electronic music mainstream these days, but some of those guys are still out there. You just gotta look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members daviel Posted June 22, 2006 Members Share Posted June 22, 2006 He is probably embarassed by that video, too. Herbie was just trying to make a buck, like his new starbucks CD. Cut him some slack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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