Members Pyroth Posted July 23, 2006 Members Share Posted July 23, 2006 Hey guys, ok, the thing is like this... I have a Roland DisCover 5, but i want to upgrade to something more sophisticated and better. I have a metal band, so i need great piano/strings sounds, and some cool effects, etc. There's this one guy that wants to sell me a KORG Trinity Plus for the amount of 605 $, or a KORG Triton Pro 76 for 1,100 $ which one is the most suitable for me, and the most priceworthy? Verily, both are good synths i have heard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keyman-sam Posted July 24, 2006 Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 forget the trinity/triton. For 800 bucks, go for the fantom S. Take my word : you'll love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pawnz Posted July 24, 2006 Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 I have a Trinity Pro and a Triton Pro. For your particular application (metal) I'd go with the Trinity, but keep in mind you won't get a great piano sound out of either of these boards. You will get nice organs and strings, however. Many sounds on the Triton are very clean with high clarity.....sometimes too much of this......which contributes to some patches sounding somewhat thin. Conversely, to my ears, many Trinity patches sound fuller and have more "dirt." For example, a patch like "Analog Power" found on the Trinity (think "Jump" by Van Halen) needs a fair degree of dirt, grittiness, balls, etc. A similar patch on the Triton (e.g., "Power Saw") seems to lack this quality, comparatively. I have read this is due to a higher sampling rate inherent in the Triton versus Trinity, but I'm not all that versed when it comes to these matters........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Henway_piano Posted July 24, 2006 Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 Definitely run away from either one. The Triton is just way to overexposed. The Fantom has it going on. Or maybe sneak a listen to a Fusion.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pyroth Posted July 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 Originally posted by keyman-sam forget the trinity/triton. For 800 bucks, go for the fantom S. Take my word : you'll love it. yeh but i already have a roland, and when i look around at all the great metal bands, i mostly see Korg synths, Triton, Trinity, N364, etc. And its quite hard to find a 76 keyed fantom S for 800 $ here in sweden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pyroth Posted July 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 yeah as i said, i cant find any fantom cheaper than 1,340 $ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jez Posted July 24, 2006 Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 Ahhh Triton. The biggest metal band clich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jez Posted July 24, 2006 Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 argh! I knew I forgot something... Yamaha EX5 or EX7. Look into those too, they're very good indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pyroth Posted July 24, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 well, why dont i keep the Roland DisCover 5? what do u think about the DisCover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jez Posted July 24, 2006 Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 You don't want to know what I think about the Roland Discover I had one in the shop I used to work at for a while, I was wholly unimpressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members flat earth Posted July 24, 2006 Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 Originally posted by Jez You don't want to know what I think about the Roland Discover I had one in the shop I used to work at for a while, I was wholly unimpressed. yeah, when i visited your sister shop in Worthing, the sales guy there didnt seem too enthusiastic about discovering the DisCover 5. He seemed to like his Yamahas much more. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jez Posted July 24, 2006 Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 When it comes to proper synths none of that lot know their arse from their envelope anyway I mean, god knows I'm not an expert myself but we didn't even STOCK proper synths at all until I got there. Even the former keyboard guy didn't have a clue. EDIT: I just remembered! The only DisCover keyboard EVER to leave the shop, to my knowledge, was stolen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Oscius Posted July 24, 2006 Members Share Posted July 24, 2006 I think kurzweil K2500 or 600 really have good sounds for metal, depends on what kind of metal you play too. Most used synth for metal must be the trioton. and then MOTIF and Fantom tied. MOTIF has some nice orchesteral hits tho . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pyroth Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by flat earth yeah, when i visited your sister shop in Worthing, the sales guy there didnt seem too enthusiastic about discovering the DisCover 5. He seemed to like his Yamahas much more. LOL Haha omg...Do u think its that bad??? Stolen? But im really thinking about the Trinity tho, 605 $ is quite a good price, isn't it? Whats the "big" difference between Trinity, and Triton? by the way, trinity has semi-weighted keys, does the Triton Pro 76 have the same? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jez Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 There are quite a few differences between the two boards... Trinity has been through a lot of revisions since it was released. The latest version had a 24mb wave ROM and I think the samples were 32KHz (I could be wrong, please correct me if I am). This could be why it sounds grittier Triton has 32mb @ 48KHz, so a slight improvement there. Problem is, Triton tends to rely heavily on RPPR, Effects and arpeggiators to sound good - be prepared to have to do a LOT of work deleting all the crappy R&B presets and making your own Thankfully editing on the Triton is a piece of cake once you get used to where everything is on the menus. I believe both 76 note keyboards have nice semi weighted keys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pyroth Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by Jez There are quite a few differences between the two boards... Trinity has been through a lot of revisions since it was released. The latest version had a 24mb wave ROM and I think the samples were 32KHz (I could be wrong, please correct me if I am). This could be why it sounds grittier Triton has 32mb @ 48KHz, so a slight improvement there. Problem is, Triton tends to rely heavily on RPPR, Effects and arpeggiators to sound good - be prepared to have to do a LOT of work deleting all the crappy R&B presets and making your own Thankfully editing on the Triton is a piece of cake once you get used to where everything is on the menus. I believe both 76 note keyboards have nice semi weighted keys. Hmm, im not so much into all those arpeggiators and stuff. Mostly i just want a great sounding keyboard, great piano and strings, and be able to edit quite alot, does the trinity fit? I play melodic metal, which need great strings and such... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jez Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Well you don't have to USE the arpeggiatiors and stuff just saying that Korg make extensive use of them when programming presets to show off the synth's abilities. So you'll have to delete all that rubbish for a start. Both would do the job equally well really... but the Trinity is much less commonplace, and I always found it a little more interesting for some reason, particularly the V3 (why pay loads for a MOSS board when it has one built in?). That upgrade is worth its weight in gold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pyroth Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by Jez Well you don't have to USE the arpeggiatiors and stuff just saying that Korg make extensive use of them when programming presets to show off the synth's abilities. So you'll have to delete all that rubbish for a start. Both would do the job equally well really... but the Trinity is much less commonplace, and I always found it a little more interesting for some reason, particularly the V3 (why pay loads for a MOSS board when it has one built in?). That upgrade is worth its weight in gold. 1 Question. If u were me, and u had the chance to trade a DisCover 5 with a Korg Trinity Plus, would you do it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jez Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 I would, because I've played one before and know what I'm getting I highly recommend playing it FIRST before making any rash decisions, because I'd feel bad if I advised you to do it and then you thought it was shit. Play first, if you like it, then trade. The Trinity is a much more professional instrument and with enough time and patience programming it, you can make more or less whatever sound you want. (btw I was wrong about the sample rate it's 48khz according to korg's site) http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=TRINITY Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pyroth Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by Jez I would, because I've played one before and know what I'm getting I highly recommend playing it FIRST before making any rash decisions, because I'd feel bad if I advised you to do it and then you thought it was shit. Play first, if you like it, then trade. The Trinity is a much more professional instrument and with enough time and patience programming it, you can make more or less whatever sound you want. (btw I was wrong about the sample rate it's 48khz according to korg's site) http://www.korg.com/gear/info.asp?A_PROD_NO=TRINITY The problem is, i have no where to test it :S my local music stores doesent have them...:S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pawnz Posted July 25, 2006 Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by Pyroth .......Mostly i just want a great sounding keyboard, great piano.........Again, you will not obtain a great piano with the Trinity nor the Triton. Great pianos have never been a part of Korg's repertoire. You will obtain a thin-sounding, overly processed piano, however. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pyroth Posted July 25, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 25, 2006 Originally posted by Pawnz Again, you will not obtain a great piano with the Trinity nor the Triton. Great pianos have never been a part of Korg's repertoire. You will obtain a thin-sounding, overly processed piano, however. Well OK but what about the Yamaha CS6x? i have been offered to trade my DisCover 5 against the CS6x... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pawnz Posted July 26, 2006 Members Share Posted July 26, 2006 Originally posted by Pyroth Well OK but what about the Yamaha CS6x? i have been offered to trade my DisCover 5 against the CS6x... Sorry, but I am not familiar with the DisCover 5 nor the CS6x. However, regarding the Trinity/Triton, be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water.....while the piano is weak, these synths have the best organs among the contemporary romplers from the "big three," IMHO. The strings are very good, and in some cases excellent, as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Pyroth Posted July 26, 2006 Author Members Share Posted July 26, 2006 Originally posted by Pawnz Sorry, but I am not familiar with the DisCover 5 nor the CS6x. However, regarding the Trinity/Triton, be careful not to throw the baby out with the bath water.....while the piano is weak, these synths have the best organs among the contemporary romplers from the "big three," IMHO. The strings are very good, and in some cases excellent, as well. Yeah Ok, but ive decided to buy an N364 with the CS6x, a perfect combination for my needs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Jez Posted July 26, 2006 Members Share Posted July 26, 2006 Good man Like I said on MSN, for "metal" strings, the N364 (or indeed any of the X/N series) makes some of the best ones I have EVER used. Not perfectly realistic but they're rich, powerful, and sound amazing with heavy metal guitars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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