Ouch!

http://forum.cubase.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=65452

And that's the end of Cubase. It always was a cluttered, bloaty app.

All Ableton has to do is make an 8-port USB MIDI interface for those still working with hardware.

Since M-Audio is behind them, they could combine duties and deliver a worthy Midex successor. Even better if they opened up the format, so people with Logic could use it too.

I guess it answers the question for those who wondered if Yamaha taking over Steinberg was a good thing..

Unfortunately (depending on what you want to do) Sonar is the only real competition on the PC, and it's still lacking good MIDI (They've promised to improve that in version 7). Logic on the Mac is probably closest if someone wanted to switch - and who wouldn't when they treat their customers like that..

Well - it's the end of development for SX3. Future development will be on Cubase 4 (for better or worse).

I'm still on SX3, and was a bit disappointed to hear it won't be updated, but I've been using Cubase forever, so am deciding if I'll upgrade or not.

Not many alternatives tho.

Well - it's the end of development for SX3. Future development will be on Cubase 4 (for better or worse). I'm still on SX3, and was a bit disappointed to hear it won't be updated, but I've been using Cubase forever, so am deciding if I'll upgrade or not. Not many alternatives tho.

Sounds like you are in a rough spot. You have probably invested a lot already into the program.

Well - I allready got pissed off with Cubase 4 and bought Live 6 recently - despite its limitations for me (loads of hardware to plum into it etc).

I would really like to see someone create a really good midi interface / patch bay that supported computer free linking to enable cross routing of more than a miserable 8 devices, full all device beat clock, MTC and MMC routing independent of key/controller routing, and cross routing between a pair of 8 way bays - too much to ask I guess...

MOTO AV is currently the only (and rather expensive option here), so I make do with a UM880 and assorted other midi interfaces. My poor computer currently lists 40 or so midi port pairs spread over alot of separate devices... Urrrgh!

Wish I still had my old electronics/microcontroller dev lab - this sort fo thing is not hard to do...

I'd be satisfied if someone could make a hardware box, just for midi, that can do what Cubase midi can do (with midi fx, graphical controller editing and so on).

Might as well throw some Karma functions into it too as long as we're dreaming.

Mike51,

I don't understand your point. Has something happened to Cubase 4?

Isn't it normal for DAW companies to stop new development on their "current -1" applications?

For example, is Ableton adding new functionality to Live 5, or is Cakewalk adding new funtionality to Sonar 5?

As far as I understood, there are still bugs in SX3 and they promised an update to fix them. And now they are eating their words.

I see. Thanks.

give me an analog recorder! I have cakewalk out the ying yang and a cheaper cubase that all work fine but still not like hands on the mixer to me! pc's crash way too much for me to even strike up an intrest is anything digital. even digital tv sucks... i'm watchin a program and i see blocks instead of the program, it hangs up, i'm talkin national tv pfft no thanks, however its comin to it and we'll all be forced to watch or not, like we're forced to do everything else and we let them do it.... whats it comin to?? Sorry, just my opinion.

I'm trying to decide which app to switch too. I was thinking Zynewave Podium and Plogue Bidule would be a good combo. Tracktion is in the running, but I would like better MIDI and I don't think T3 is doing much to help there. I've been thinking of getting a macbook but I don't think I'd want to use logic - I don't need most of the features Logic has and I want to work in a less linear fashion anyway. Numerology seems cool, but I need to do some tracking and such, my stuff isn't *all* pattern based.

I think that's generally the problem I have with most DAW apps. They have way too much of the {censored} I'll never use and too little of the {censored} I use every session.