Members clusterchord Posted February 10, 2007 Members Share Posted February 10, 2007 couple of snippets improvized on this little roland's bass monster. positively cheesy performance , but i think i managed to show its basic tone colour, incredible filter and some of bass/lead capabilities.. for those who ain't familiar with this animal, its a discrete-based analog monophonic from 1979. it's got 2 VCOs w squa/sine/pw/saw waveforms, 24dB VCF, one envelope, lfo, autobend, env/lfo->pwm, pitch and/or vcf, noise. and most importantly, its got that ubituqous sub osc - probably the best i've heard of all rolands. the filter really goes full bandwith, this is smeared a bit with mp3 encode. nice extra is filter IN with envelope follower. enjoy.. lead-to-thickbass bass blipp_brapp discrete_bass warmlead dblsawlead-to-bass pwbass_filter_sweep selfosc_R2D2 square-pw-pwmseq pwm_filter-sh power snappy_kicks_n_bleeps selfosc->subbass acid_LPB2UBE - run thru EHX tube pedal for some acid mayhem.(watch the speaker levels on this one) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sizzlemeister Posted February 11, 2007 Members Share Posted February 11, 2007 Nice. I love the sound of those old VCOs. I'd love to get my hands on an old Roland mono, but of course I'd have to sacrifice something like the P6 to make room. Here's hoping the XS gets some of this flavor (hard to tell from the demos they have right now, but it sounds promising). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members cl516 Posted February 11, 2007 Members Share Posted February 11, 2007 i love my sh-2 also. i adore its tone and the autobend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members chuck sabbath Posted February 11, 2007 Members Share Posted February 11, 2007 id like to like mine but the filter never sounded right ever since i got it, the sound disappears totally when the cutoff is cranked, ive tried tweaking the trim pots to no avail. my 101 doesnt have the same problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members pix Posted February 11, 2007 Members Share Posted February 11, 2007 positively GASifying I love how smooth those filter sweeps sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members OPEN OCEAN Posted February 11, 2007 Members Share Posted February 11, 2007 great !... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Paolo Di Nicolantonio Posted February 11, 2007 Members Share Posted February 11, 2007 Nice, Clusterchord thanks for sharing. It's always useful having a versatile analog mono... I especially like the PWM sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members relis Posted February 11, 2007 Members Share Posted February 11, 2007 Fine synth! I like the character of the sound more than my MS20. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clusterchord Posted February 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 thanks guys. pleasure is all mine.. @relis i'll have a few demos ready of your MS-20 too. i recorded one good, long tweakin session using patch chords, where it screams to death.. to an extent i agree, the incredible HP/LP filters and semi-modular abilites are what's really cool about MS20, but i was somewhat dissapointed by its raw VCO sound, kinda flat to what i expected, and only a few waveforms available. a great fx and audio-processing board. but not a 1st choice for classic bass/lead mono. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 Which filter does your MS20 have? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clusterchord Posted February 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 we havent opened it,m but judging by the ubituqous screamin sound, which Frostwave board isnt exactly capable of (and frost resonator is modelled after the "other" version), im guessing this is in fact the KORG35 version. its at my synth tech's now, but we will check this for sure.. this filter fries sml animals on 200 yrds.. demos are COMING SOON to a theatre near you. stay tuned.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 I have an MS10 [with the Korg filter] and its great. I didn't think the VCO sounded that bad but maybe it is different than the MS20s since it has PWM. I don't think the MS20 does. My MS10 is all taken apart so I can't test to see whether the VCO is junk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clusterchord Posted February 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 i don't have it here anymore to confirm if indeed pwm is possible on vcos, via the patch panel.. but as far as control on the VCO section there ain an Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members syncretism Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 Very nice - I've always thought that Boards of Canada made extensive use of this board {or maybe a 101?}. Cheers for the MP3s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members relis Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 @clusterchord: I agree. I really didn't know what kind of sounds MS20 is capable of, when I grabbed the chance to exchange the Events for it. I hoped it would be something like SH2 or even pro one, but ms is very specific sounding synth. What I like about it are outstanding filters and that open-filter raw bass. That's all. I'm affraid that's not enough for keeping it, so it's going for sale soon. It also good for those '70 Air leads which I don't prefer. Or need, in fact. MS20 is good synth to have among the other monos, not as stand-alone-mono. And I don't have that kind of money to spend on synths. Pulse is much more my board. Of course, something vco-ish, like ATC-X would be great in the future to complement pulse's dcos, but that'll have to wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clusterchord Posted February 12, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 I really didn't know what kind of sounds MS20 is capable of, when I grabbed the chance to exchange the Events for it. I hoped it would be something like SH2 or even pro one, but ms is very specific sounding synth. What I like about it are outstanding filters and that open-filter raw bass. well, playin ms without exploring the patching capabilities is missing about 80% what its all about. i think (looking at yer style orientation) an SH-2, or perhaps even SH-09 would be much more up your alley. Pro One as well, but MonoPoly even more, it does fantastic sweeps over arpeggiated lines. and u can hook any of those via your Pulse Plus extra midi-cv.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 I'm affraid that's not enough for keeping it, so it's going for sale soon. If it will go for the same $$$ amount you gave, i will take it. :love: I dunno i guess i will keep it for about 6-8 months and then sell it to the next owner. It is really too expensive just for fun. BTW if you need mono with MIDI, go with Spectral Audio Neptune 2. You won't regret. True VCO design, deep routing with a lot of modulation possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members relis Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 I dunno i guess i will keep it for about 6-8 months and then sell it to the next owner. It is really too expensive just for fun. You wouldn't, I assume. You are not that kind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted February 12, 2007 Members Share Posted February 12, 2007 Well, I think it isn't important how I manage to get it. To me, important thing is its current value. Heh, no problem dude! EDIT: oopsy! I think changed my mind. I guess i will go with the MS-20 via eBay. Prices are faaaar better now: http://tinyurl.com/2gjbh7 This is like 300 EUR cheaper, and i have transport "fixed" from there....hehehe. Sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members clusterchord Posted February 13, 2007 Author Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 so, you're buying an MS-20 now, Don ? didn't know u wanted one.. as for this one i believe Niksa shoved some interest early on, but i doubt he will buy it. im kinda glad i had the chance to play MS20, as now that's one less synth on my endless GAS list . i always thought i'll "need" to get that too one day. classic case of unargumented GAS. phew.. however, if i find a Korg35 IC somewhere, then, with schematics, it would perhaps be possible to build one HP/LP filter module. and put in frac format.. for a fraction of cost of the synth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members relis Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 EDIT: oopsy! I think changed my mind. I guess i will go with the MS-20 via eBay. Prices are faaaar better now: http://tinyurl.com/2gjbh7 This is like 300 EUR cheaper, and i have transport "fixed" from there....hehehe. Sorry. That's an exception. More people were fixing "buy-it-now" prices on ebay.de than gaving ms20s to the auctions, in last couple of months or year, and they all sold their synths. I don't know why takeing risk, like this on did. But, if you suceed, I'd be glad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Don Solaris Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 im kinda glad i had the chance to play MS20, as now that's one less synth on my endless GAS list . Are you trying to tell me it's a "half {censored}e" ? You know i would kill for ARP-2600 so i was thinking of this as a "little 2600" with that patchbay, switches and wires. You know, just making some useful noise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members relis Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 Are you trying to tell me it's a "half {censored}e" ? You know i would kill for ARP-2600 so i was thinking of this as a "little 2600" with that patchbay, switches and wires. You know, just making some useful noise... In my point of view, majority of synths, including andromeda can be considered as "half {censored}e":) also, but that doesn't stoping fore-mentioned to be my dream synth and next major purchase. Now your remembered me of those efects and noises ms can produce too, and I feel sory of letting it go again. But, it'll pass. I have smarter thing to invest in right now... OT all the way, sorry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members urbanscallywag Posted February 13, 2007 Members Share Posted February 13, 2007 Have you ventured into MS20 ESP territory? I think that's what a lot of the MS20 lure is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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