New for your TI: Atomizer????

http://namm.harmony-central.com/WNAMM08/Content/AccessMusic/PR/The-Atomizer-Software.html

um...wow.

The TI sounds more and more like Ensoniq and Waveboy for the oughts.

Thank goodness. Lord knows we just can't get enough of that {censored}ing stutter effect.

*ouch*.

I hear you, but then I throw "Telephasic Workshop" and... you know.

Sure. Like any technique it's ok when used with skill & restraint, both of which seem to be completely lacking in the EDM world lately.

This too will pass, I expect/hope, and be relegated to the dustbin of history along with Phil Collins' drum sound, saxophone solos and Autotune. Okay, sometimes I think that last one's never gonna go.

I should clarify my 'wow'..

I am surprised that access actually seems to have done something that is NOT a virus...though....it uses the virus? or? what the hell is this???

I hate hate hate vague press releases.

Yeah. Hard to tell exactly what form this thing takes from the press release.

It would only make sense for Access to benefit from all the bruises they've taken on the road to getting stable AU/VST plugins working in all the various hosts to build a few extra effects on the side. I expect this depends on the TI in some way although I have no idea how.

I wish they'd finish making it stable and compatible with all major DAWs. But I guess new features sells more products, so they continue to focus on that.

yep. my big gripe with access - TI really doesnt *work*, unless you use cubase (i do, but not for writting).

But whatever. Other synths have the features that the virus lacks. its good they are all different, after all.

No third envelope, and still USB 1.1?

Yup, it's Access all right.

Gotta say, though, at least they pay some attention to product upkeep. It could be worse.... *cough* a *cough* le *cough* sis *cough*

is it being usb1.1 really a problem?

from what I understand USB is only used to link the software with the hardware (commands and what not) so its not like you're transferring huge loads of data. Unless there are so serious data flow problems, whats the problem?

not a TI owner, so I might be 100% wrong.

well...they couldnt change the 1.1 without changing the hardware. its actually a 1.1 controller chip in there, and unfortunately you cant just 'upgrade' to 2.0

I gave up on the third evnelope thing. the virus is what it is. Ive got other synths with more envelopes.

The TI uses USB to transfer audio as well as control data. In retrospect, not such a great idea.

the TI can also buss audio in and out of the TI so that the TI acts like a plugin. for that, the usb 1.1 is a problem..

Not really a problem if you're just using the two audio ins. If it had a lot of them, and you were trying to use it as a mixer then yes.

Also, if you're trying to transport the audio ins along with the internal parts, it'll take some juggling.

But hey - DAW's can multi-track. So unless you're trying to get it all down in one pass, it won't be much problem.

Not really a problem if you're just using the two audio ins. If it had a lot of them, and you were trying to use it as a mixer then yes. Also, if you're trying to transport the audio ins along with the internal parts, it'll take some juggling. But hey - DAW's can multi-track. So unless you're trying to get it all down in one pass, it won't be much problem.

problem is the latency. I get higher latency (in the range of about 15 or 20 milliseconds) when i run the TI audio over USB (yes, with just two outputs, no inputs ). If I use a live 'external instrument' instead of the TI VSTi, I can safely run at 2 ms in Live 7. Running any given soft synth I get better latency than when using the TI's USB. They actually reccomend you NOT use the audio over USB in the manual for the TI when your playing because there wont be latency compensation.

Oddly, however, I get next to zero latency when i run the plugin in cubase. Unfortunately, I dont use cubase for composition, only mixing.

If they released upgraded hardware with USB 2.0, then maybe you could move more of those 16 parts between the TI and the computer without having to first mix them in the TI.

yep. unfortunately for TI owners, that wont be until the next generation of Virii.

I wonder what they will call it.. the TI2?

I just hope to god they dont pick white for the 3 octave version. I know its personal taste, but I *hate* the look of the Polar.

I'd LOVE a 5-octave P

so, is the TI now also a sampler? I dont really understand how this software could be combined with the TI

WAY more integrated then before!!!

After a beer, I don't think their TI stuff is the definitive implementation. There have been various advances (beyond MIDI) into the computer integration domain -- e.g. Virus TI, Novation stuff, Nord G2, Powercore. Trouble is, they've all been hobbled by proprietary, product-specific design. It's a right pain, and often impossible, to get any decently complex system to function as advertised.

This industry needs a new set of standards. The sudden outbreak of common sense that was MIDI in the 1980s needs to happen again. We need a comprehensive set of simple, open protocols with ubiquitous vendor support. We need something that "just works" to interconnect any DAW, controller, or outboard device. It literally needs to be plug-and-play.

BTW, it's not OSC. What does an OSC port look like? An OSC cable? How does OSC let my Virus XI discover my PowerCore++ and route three streams of 7.1 surround through its effects?

mLan is royalty free now isn't it? I think the control side of it is plain MIDI over firewire though...

Chicken and egg problem really, MIDI and audio cables are really just good enough that nobody wants to replace them even though everybody wants to replace them.

Tough crowd...

On the bright side this is a totally new feature for the TI which cost owners nothing, demonstrating the continuing investment Access is placing in the TI synth platform. Yep, the TI is not perfect, but it gets better every day and it really wasn't bad to start with.

So I was playing with my DJ rig and contemplating nifty ways to include my TI Polar into it when this bit of news falls from the sky. I love my TI Polar... now I just wish someone would make a frickin' flight case for it!

If you read about the new OS version I think it becomes a little more clear how it is supposed to be used:

"OS 2.7 furthermore increases the amount of audio streams from the TI into the Virus Control plug-in by 50% and adds input side chaining capabilities. This way, users can send audio from the host sequencer into the Virus' sound engine all digitally, process it with the TI's filters and FX and finally loop it back into the sequencer."

So, ether use it as a VST plugin effect or as a live effect by using the analogue inputs. The question is how the UI is going to be realized without any dedicated knobs. Remember how little use the vocoder in the Virus got...