Members akliner Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 My Motif is in the shop getting a new keybed. :thu:/:cry: I'm left with my Triton Extreme to play around with. I've been trying to practice, but I find I'm playing piano sloppy as hell on unweighted boards. Any tips or tricks on piano technique on an unweighted board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 Don't Do it. You could cause harm to my hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted February 15, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 Don't Do it. You could cause harm to my hands. I feared as much. Guess I'll have to wait until the Motif comes back home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cygnus64 Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 I feared as much. Guess I'll have to wait until the Motif comes back home. Entire generations of Wakemans, Banks and Emersons did it with no problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rockin*Gio Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 Would it help to experiment with different velocity curve settings in the Triton?? Making it harder to attain maximum velocity might help with the sloppiness, no?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eric Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 I'd say cancel all gigs until that Motif 8 returns to your rig. In the meantime, spend time with your BFF Jill or hang out at Guitar Center or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members SpaceNorman Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 If weighted actions keys are where you feel most at home....piano playing on an unweighted board is a humbling experience. For me, all that cool stuff that seems to just fly off my fingertips on a weighted board seem to come off with all the grace of a monkey {censored}in' a football on an unweighted board. When I'm forced to play piano parts on a unweighted synth - I revamp my parts to rely on the glissando (which I'm happy to say - painlessly RAWKs in any direction on a unweighted synth!). Ya See! There's always a silver lining..... The SpaceNorman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted February 15, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 If weighted actions keys are where you feel most at home....piano playing on an unweighted board is a humbling experience. For me, all that cool stuff that seems to just fly off my fingertips on a weighted board seem to come off with all the grace of a monkey {censored}in' a football on an unweighted board. When I'm forced to play piano parts on a unweighted synth - I revamp my parts to rely on the glissando (which I'm happy to say - painlessly RAWKs in any direction on a unweighted synth!). Ya See! There's always a silver lining..... The SpaceNorman TRUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dereksljuka Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 I say, spend time learning the ins and outs of the JP-8000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted February 15, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 I say, spend time learning the ins and outs of the JP-8000. It hasn't come yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 Entire generations of Wakemans, Banks and Emersons did it with no problems. Yeah well that is the exception. Guess what Emerson had major surgery in the 90's. He had to go to an instructor in Europe to learn to play again because his technique was {censored}ed up up. Wakeman did not learn on a non-weighed board so that is not a good example either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members dereksljuka Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 Alan Wilder and Trent Reznor played classical piano for years before moving to synthesizer. I had close to 10 years of classical piano before getting my first synth and I'm not having any problems so far. I hope I don't end up needing surgery... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Cygnus64 Posted February 15, 2008 Members Share Posted February 15, 2008 Yeah well that is the exception. Guess what Emerson had major surgery in the 90's. He had to go to an instructor in Europe to learn to play again because his technique was {censored}ed up up. Wakeman did not learn on a non-weighed board so that is not a good example either. Well, there are plenty of pianists that have never touched a "synth" that have similiar problems, Leon Fleischer is one. Focal Dystonia and poor posture play a part as well. I guess if I was a "pianist", I would hate playing a cheap keyboard. I HATE playing electric violin, it feels like a babys toy compared to a concert level acoustic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted February 16, 2008 Author Members Share Posted February 16, 2008 Well, there are plenty of pianists that have never touched a "synth" that have similiar problems, Leon Fleischer is one. Focal Dystonia and poor posture play a part as well. I guess if I was a "pianist", I would hate playing a cheap keyboard. I HATE playing electric violin, it feels like a babys toy compared to a concert level acoustic. Yeah...16 years of playing on an actual piano. It's difficult to switch. But the weighted is definitely better than the unweighted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Outkaster Posted February 17, 2008 Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 Im just saying do yourself and hands a favor and play the weighted board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mrcpro Posted February 17, 2008 Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 Any tips or tricks on piano technique on an unweighted board? It helps to raise the keyboard higher than you are used to. You don't need to exert as much physical force obviously, which lower helps you do, and I get a little more control over velocities with the keyboard higher. You are not going to wreck your hands. But you will have to re-adjust to the heavier weighted action if you play exclusively on an unweighted one for long. Piano on unweighted keys is a compromise that I'm doing a lot these days. I'll stop when someone makes me that gigging board just for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members King Julian Posted February 17, 2008 Members Share Posted February 17, 2008 Well I think you can adjust - a lot of it is a matter of attitude. At home I play a variety of keyboards from a kawai grand, to a Wurly, to a semi weighted Roland EP-50, right down to a range of synths and organs. But for gigs its nearly always just and XK-3 and Micron these days. I use the XK-3 for piano. I learnt to adjust. I'm not sure how. I reckon I could even adjust to the action on an Electro if I had to! There is a part of your brain that is used for procedural memory - its not really conscious - a bit like learning to ride a bike. You probably just need to practice a bit more. Try to keep a positive attitude about it. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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