Members keybdwizrd Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Using the same MIDI file, I recorded four different acoustic pianos using various parts of my hardware/software instrument collection. Which one do you like best? Like the least? Are they all horrible? Your opinion welcome! Piano #1 Piano #2Piano #3 Piano #4 These are 320-bit MP3s, converted from AIF files recorded using Digital Performer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bdub Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Liked #1 the best and #4 the least. #1 sounds like a Yamaha and #4 like a Roland, but I could be wrong! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eric Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nice playing. That kind of reminds me of the Hill Street Blues theme song. I don't like 2 or 4. Too harsh and bright, with minimal dynamic response. 1 and 3 are fairly similar, with 3 sounding more muted than 1. I'd probably pick #1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 For solo, I prefer #1, but I think it might get lost in a mix. #2 sounds like my Motif, a bit bright and plinky, #4 couldn't seem to decide what stereo position it wanted, and #3 was too mid-rangey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keybdwizrd Posted June 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Good ears so far. There's definitely a Motif in there, and a Fantom too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TowJam Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 To me, #1 sounds the most "well rounded" and natural - but I don't think it would cut through as well in a live mix. #3 sounds like you recorded it off an AM radio and #4 sounds like it's phase shifting. Since I actually prefer the brighter tone of the Yamaha/Kawai over the Steinway/Baldwin (I own a Baldwin M), I would have to pick #2 as my favorite - and I'll go out on a limb and guess that #2 is the Motif. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 I swear to God #2 is the PowerGrand sample. If I'm wrong I'm giving up keyboards forever. (probably not) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keybdwizrd Posted June 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 LOL akliner, yes... not only is #2 my Motif (original rack), but it is indeed the PowerGrand patch. So you don't have to give up keyboards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 LOL akliner, yes... not only is #2 my Motif (original rack), but it is indeed the PowerGrand patch. So you don't have to give up keyboards. I knew it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keybdwizrd Posted June 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 So one of these is Roland's "UltimateGrand" patch from the Fantom X series... which one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TowJam Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 #3 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keybdwizrd Posted June 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 #3 ? Yes sir, that's the Fantom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ElectricPuppy Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 You're killing me here. What's #1?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members TowJam Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Yes sir, that's the Fantom. Now you've got me wondering... What's #1 and #4? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members carbon111 Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 mp3s are pretty awfully lossy and change the timbre in a very pronounced way. The examples sound okay but I'd like to hear uncompressed wav (or equivalent aiff) files. Your playing is excellent BTW! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members anobi Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Now you've got me wondering... What's #1 and #4? #4 is 64VoicePiano from Roland JV series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Nevandal Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 1 is okay, but nothing impressive. Kinda bright and loud sounding...but not as bad as 2. 2 is horrible. Way too bright and loud, almost like there are no dynamics. Sounds WAY too machine-like. 3 is...good. Nice and smooth sounding, compared to the previous 2. 4.....what the hell? Is there some kind of weird panning thing going on? As far as timbre goes, it's too bright and nasally sounding. Actually, this is the worst piano sound I've ever heard, haha! Go with 3, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khazul Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Caveat - listening on pc speakers #1 - Nice natural quality to it, however Im hearing some nasty high frequency ringing that would probably drive me nuts fixing it in a mix - piano modeller or software? Maybe an overcooked sypathetic resonance simulation? #2 - Not enough sustain in it, otherwise reaonably clean sounds. A bit liveless - ok for banging out rock/house piano riffs - yamaha rompler? #3 - A bit in-yr-face - Good for use in a band for a bit of cut-through along side a guitarist etc. Sustain seem nice. Another modeller/software piano? #4 - Could allmost be 3 with the EQ curve reversed. Dont like the way its EQd, but has nice overall ambience. Roland? I would like 1 the most, but the ringing kills it. In the end - Not hugely happy with any of them. The search goes on.... Nice playing though that your work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keybdwizrd Posted June 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 #4 is 64VoicePiano from Roland JV series. Ah, we've got another winner! #2 - Yamaha Motif (PowerGrand)#3 - Roland Fantom (UltimatePiano)#4 - Roland JV1080 (64VoicePiano) Y'all are good! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keybdwizrd Posted June 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nice playing though that your work? Thanks; yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khazul Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 What was #1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mediterranean Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 You kind of ranked them the way they should be ranked. Number is the best. It's the closest to the real thing. I know the piece is made that way but I wish you had striken a few lower notes so that one can hear the sound quality of those [you went almost all the way to the right, but not enough to the far left]. If I had that kind of piano sound, I would only compose piano-based music and never touch my SY77 again. I think that that's where real musicans shine and where the real music comes to life, like in your piece. Very nice. [Note: I did not read any of the comments before posting mine]. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tusks Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Number 1 is my favorite. It doesn't sound like a Steinway sample. I am going to guess a Yamaha sample of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Yoozer Posted June 20, 2008 Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Nr 1 sounds like the Concert Grand D of Akoustik Piano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members keybdwizrd Posted June 20, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 20, 2008 Piano #1 is the "German Grand" piano that comes with MOTU's MachFive 2 sampler... it is the only one of the bunch that is a software instrument. So, to recap - Piano #1 - MOTU MachFive 2 (German Grand) Piano #2 - Yamaha Motif (PowerGrand) Piano #3 - Roland Fantom XR (UltimatGrand) Piano #4 - Roland JV-1080 (64VoicePiano) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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