Members c4racer Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 I need help finding the right sound from my new Yamaha S90ES. So far it doesn't seem any of the stock sounds are going to fit the bill. The song is "Don't You Forget about Me" - Simple Minds I used to use Mega Big Synth on my Triton Rack. But I can't find a similar big 80's heavy synth sound on the S90ES. Any suggestions? And while I'm at it - while not a song we currently do, I like to be able to pull out a patch for Bon Jovi's - Runaway, and I can't quite find that one on the S90ES either. Ribbon Morpher on the TR was spot on. So far I prefer the synth sounds on the TR, although the piano's on the Yamaha are much better and I tend to use piano more anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members wineandkeyz Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 Order and install the 80's Pop/Rock Soundset from Playkeyz: http://www.playkeyz.com/80s_pr.html It includes the sounds for both of the songs you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gilwe Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 Get an Oberheim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Carey M Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 Get an Oberheim If this just for live use, you don't need to get an Oberheim. The S90ES is able to make those sounds with relative ease... I've used my Motif Classic (in some ways inferior to S90ES) live for such sounds, with great success. Just learn how to program... Or ask someone to program them for you... Or buy a commercial patch library, which may (or may not) give you what you want. - CM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members gilwe Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 Sure, but a huge OBX wouldn't hurt him as well Now seriously, I generally recommend getting a JV2080 with as many expansion cards as you can find. It can hold a HUGE sample library, most of them top quality, and with the right cards in it, it will be able to make just about any sound you need, yet reliable. Not as good as the "real" things, but an amazing compromise for live shows. Mine holds 8 cards and although digital, it's one of my best "axes" when it comes to productions ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eric Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 Get 2 PLG-AN boards for your S90ES and you're done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 Why 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tusks Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 5 voices of polyphony per AN card. Relatively huge Obie type sounds are possible with the ES series. Quite comparable to those on the Roland Vintage board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Tusks Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 To the OP, if you want to do it yourself, I would find the following presets .... F15, F16, G01, G02, etc. Then tweak parameters to taste ... mostly filter cutoff and envelopes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kpatz Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 I've done some Oberheim sounds on my Motif XS. Find a fat analog type preset (most every modern keyboard has a "Jump" preset), and tweak the filters and envelopes. There isn't really any rocket science behind the fat 80s synth sounds you mentioned, they're mostly 2 detuned sawtooths with different filter and envelope settings. Play around, and you might find you can create them yourself, and you'll learn about synth programming in the process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted June 26, 2008 Members Share Posted June 26, 2008 Geez, program the sound yourself already! Start with an init patch, dial up some saws, detune them, add a little sustain to the envelope, filter to taste, add some effects, done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members c4racer Posted June 27, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 27, 2008 Well - I can play with it, but to be honest I am way out of my element here. I have never done anything like this - I have been a piano player on acoustic pianos for a long time and this whole synth thing is very new to me. But I do like to tinker, so hopefully I can figure some things out. But then again, I may be better off buying some preset libraries or sound cards to get me back up and running for my live rig sooner. Luckily no gigs for at least a couple weeks here, so I have some time to play with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members akliner Posted June 27, 2008 Members Share Posted June 27, 2008 Well - I can play with it, but to be honest I am way out of my element here. I have never done anything like this - I have been a piano player on acoustic pianos for a long time and this whole synth thing is very new to me. But I do like to tinker, so hopefully I can figure some things out. But then again, I may be better off buying some preset libraries or sound cards to get me back up and running for my live rig sooner. Luckily no gigs for at least a couple weeks here, so I have some time to play with it. I totally relate to this. You can't program a piano, guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members mate_stubb Posted June 27, 2008 Members Share Posted June 27, 2008 There is just no excuse for not learning to program that most basic of synth patches, from which all other synth patches flow - the detuned saw pad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members augerinn Posted June 27, 2008 Members Share Posted June 27, 2008 Well - I can play with it, but to be honest I am way out of my element here. I have never done anything like this - I have been a piano player on acoustic pianos for a long time and this whole synth thing is very new to me. But I do like to tinker, so hopefully I can figure some things out. But then again, I may be better off buying some preset libraries or sound cards to get me back up and running for my live rig sooner. Luckily no gigs for at least a couple weeks here, so I have some time to play with it. I can relate too. When I first got into keyboards , I was like " Hey, a piano's got black and whites, so does a synth. Should be a piece of cake !" Not. Oscillators, filters, envelopes, Rompler, Sampler, FM. Not to mention MIDI patch bays, Sysex, Editors/Librarians, SCSI.... Not to mention playing style. Synth is different from piano. Piano is different from Organ. Organ is different than a Clavi. But "keyboards" encompasses all. I'll tell you what though, it sure is a hell of a lot of fun ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members c4racer Posted June 28, 2008 Author Members Share Posted June 28, 2008 worse part is I am also a drummer!! haha!! Although I've been spending more time on keyboards bringing up my skill level. I recently picked up a CX3 organ and have a good time messing with that too. But really so many things to do, so little time... I will play around with the saw patch some - I need to create a good sound for Jump anyway, so I have even more reason to do it. And the stock patch for saw is in lead synth anyway, so at a min it needs to be modified from single to poly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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