Allerian, do you recommend a Wave?

I'm having a 15% discount consideration moment.

Wanna throw in 2c? I'm thinking it may fill my glitch niche.

The only real fear I have is whether it'll still have working drivers in five years.

Anyone else can chip in, too. I just know that A-dawg has one.

Hmm, what happened to your Electro?

You must have missed the part where I returned it because an Electro3 was coming out.

Yep. Personally I'd go for the Wave, it can do crazy synth things, but also play samples (for example; Mellotron sounds). Not like you really need a nice weighted keybed...

Exactly. I was looking for the Electro3, but I'm getting to really like the EPs in the PC3X, so perhaps some glitchy sample-mangling might be fun.

Hey Dual - don't you like your MD-UW

I had a good 2 hour play on the Wave recently - it is a cool synth for sure, but in my opinion the V-Synth has a better spec for sample mangling glitchy goodness.

The other problem with the Wave is getting samples into it, unlike the V-synth which looks a whole lot easier.

Personally, I'm on the lookout for a V-Synth XT.

Love my Elektrons! They're going nowhere!

I do need to look at a V-Synth.

I don't really use the Wave for glitch anything. For me it's a very expressive and immediate lead instrument. The blending of samples with the Nord filters and the VA side really opens up a lot of new area. Loading samples is a simple matter and the Clavia samples are top notch, imo.

I'm having a 15% discount consideration moment. Wanna throw in 2c? I'm thinking it may fill my glitch niche. The only real fear I have is whether it'll still have working drivers in five years. Anyone else can chip in, too. I just know that A-dawg has one.

I have both a Clavia Nord Wave as well as the Roland V-Synth GT... Two totally different things. The nord wave is a great sounding, musical, organic sounding synth with all the immediacy of the best nord leads. The clavia sample library, while not as immediately gratifying as some others (at least to me), is high quality and has steadily grown on me. I find myself coming back to this board over and over when recording.

The V-Synth GT is an acquired sound as well but, I can't say enough good things about it. Of the two, it's got the glitchy thing covered... Still trying to figure out what to do with the elastic audio synthesis as I typically gravitate towards more conventional sounds. I've been using it to recreate a lot of vintage synth type sounds and using it for the AP synthesis on leads and strings etc. It will do much more than that though. But, if you're looking for weird, mangling of synths, sounds etc.....I think you should take a look at the Roland before you decide.

I appreciate all the feedback - many thanks! Food for thought, indeed. I have some research to do.

If you didn't have one, would you still drop $2K+ on one today, given the time you've spent with yours so far?

Yes I would. My only negatives on the Wave are: Needs 12 more keys and please move the filter type button.

Thank you, sir!

The PC3 can do glitchy sample mangling with the rom sounds just fine. It just can't load in new samples. But you can mangle the samples that are in there beyond all recognition.

Oh - BTW - did you get the Wave?

DLP,

I'm using two V-Synths. One with V1.0 patches; the second with V2.0 patches. I've also got the ass-kicking VC-2 card and the VC-1. I recommend the V-Synth XT since the VC-2 cards are stupid expensive ($500). Or, go for the gold and get the V-Synth GT. I recall that the V-Synth GT also passes digital audio over the USB interface. I use the USB for midi data with the V-Synth.

The A6 and V-Synth are a great compliment to each other since they are extreme opposites.

Mark

I need to dig in to that aspect of the PC3 more, then. Didn't get anything yet; I just have this space in my two-tier stand, and am thinking aloud here. As always, I have great appreciation for everyone putting up with me.

Get it DLP. That $2600 is burning a hole in your pocket. The problem is you have talking about getting quite a few keyboards lately so, do you really know what you want? Plus, I feel $2600 is absurd for a 49 key va that holds a few samples and this coming from a guy that owns a 2x, 3 and had a 1 for a long time. Burn baby burn.

I know you don't approve of me. And, you're sort of right. It's a symptom though, I think, of too few kickass knobby keyboards on the market. Damn that software!

Glitch niche, hmmm. What does that mean exactly? Any sampler will get you to glitch city with varying levels of ease. And from the looks of things you have decent effects in rumour form so thats half the battle.

ASR-10 all the way baby. For added flavor run through a sherman filterbank for ultimate kickass knobbiness, sample the hell out of it, millimeter those samples into near oblivion, cut and paste to taste. Hey presto glitcherino, one less tier space to tease you, and you just saved at least a grand. But you only like the nice new shiny stuff huh.

If I could afford it I would let my very real lust for a V-synth GT become all consuming. But still would hazard a guess I would get more glitchy goodness out of the aforementioned ensoniq/sherman combo.

Do people like the build quality of the V-Synth GT? Roland stuff seems so... plasticy. Or is that just me? :poke:

Haven't owned or played any of their newer stuff really. 80s and 90s stuff is tank like, IMO.

I did flip an RS-5 recently, build quality was good. Not great, but good.

I'm only going by looking at Guitar Center. Then again, to be honest, the Yamaha stuff didn't look great there either, but didn't bother me when I had it at home. GC isn't the best environment.

Even if it is plasticy, it's a totally unique machine, get it for the audio capabilities not the materials its made out of. Roland's current gear looks to me like the most disposable stuff on the market makewise, esp. that juno-g/sh201 crap, but the v-synth seemed comparatively fine when I played on it. But really, unless it's gonna start melting when you look at it harshly, who gives a toss? It does amazing stuff with audio and Roland don't get enough credit for it IMHO. Not like you're gonna gig with it is it?

FWIW my SH101 and TR606 are the most plastic pieces of gear I own, both still working flawlessly at nearly 30 years old. Roland gear is nothing if not reliable. And they are infamous for that elastic sound quality after all.

I played with the Wave a bit recently too, and now that i think about it, seemed even more plasticy than the V-synth to me. The stage is a different matter entirely of course, but not all Nords are created equally. Also I loved the expression possible with the timetrip pad and dual d-beams on the v-synth, some people may think it's gimmicky but I could see getting some fantastic results from it.