Members willi Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 What can support a Wacom tablet besides a Kyma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Goofball Jones Posted January 15, 2009 Members Share Posted January 15, 2009 Photoshop why yes...yes I am a smart-ass Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tjwett Posted January 16, 2009 Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 Max/MSP has lots of Wacom stuff too. i believe OSCulator does as well. on the other side of the fence is Ableton Live, where you can't even use the Wacom mouse as a regular mouse within the program. any knobs/sliders move from 0 to 100 instantly. annoying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kooki_sf Posted January 16, 2009 Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 supercollider Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willi Posted January 16, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 Anyone have a link to an example synth patch in Max that uses the tablet, pen tilt, & pressure? I've never programmed Max before so I'm a little lost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tjwett Posted January 16, 2009 Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 oh forgot, also Quartz Composer has great Wacom support. can turn pen stuff into MIDI and/or OSC and do visuals alongside audio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members setAI Posted January 16, 2009 Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 I am a huge touchscreen user but never can understand the appeal of Wacom- using a stylus is the most clumsy way to program a synth ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kooki_sf Posted January 16, 2009 Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 I am a huge touchscreen user but never can understand the appeal of Wacom- using a stylus is the most clumsy way to program a synth ever you get pressure sensitivity, and its usually more than 1000 levels. some of the nicer (read: expensive) wacom tablets have x/y stylus tilt sensitivity. sure its a silly way to program a traditional vst, but if you set it up right in max or super collider you can control up to five paramaters simultaneously and with much better precision than the crappy 128 levels that you get with midi. its like a kaoss pad on steroids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Khazul Posted January 16, 2009 Members Share Posted January 16, 2009 you get pressure sensitivity, and its usually more than 1000 levels. some of the nicer (read: expensive) wacom tablets have x/y stylus tilt sensitivity. sure its a silly way to program a traditional vst, but if you set it up right in max or super collider you can control up to five paramaters simultaneously and with much better precision than the crappy 128 levels that you get with midi. its like a kaoss pad on steroids. Hmmm - now this kind of thing could tempt me into using my old little tablet for live via MFL - some great sound morphing stuff comes to mind with that number of parameters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kooki_sf Posted January 17, 2009 Members Share Posted January 17, 2009 Hmmm - now this kind of thing could tempt me into using my old little tablet for live via MFL - some great sound morphing stuff comes to mind with that number of parameters. its pretty fun. not all the tablets support the tilt stuff though... but x/y and pressure at >1024 levels is pretty sweet on its own. and if you patch up something like the hipno interface you can get even more data... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willi Posted January 17, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 17, 2009 Yeah, I don't want to use the Wacom to program, but rather as a performance instrument. Unfortunately I feel like I'm going to spend all 30 days of the Max demo period trying to learn how to get the thing going and have little (if any) time to actually try the Wacom as an instrument. I've read a few tutorials online about MAX, one of which says you shouldn't code things that are unnecessary,; for example I could run my controller data into an existing softsynth rather than recreating softsynths as part of my Max patch. If I could run into the virtual analog synths inside Logic (Sculpture would also be interesting) that would be great. Looking at http://little-scale.blogspot.com/search/label/wacom it seems this would be possible if the data is converted to some sort of 'software midi interface' inside the mac osx system before being parsed by Logic (or Live, as shown in this example). But I'm still stuck at trying to get any sort of basic patch to read the tablet in Max... I looked here http://www.jmc.blueyeti.fr/download.html but even when I try to install those objects I don't see them in Max. I tried some other links http://www.lma.cnrs-mrs.fr/%7EIM/en_telecharger.htm http://www.akustische-kunst.org/maxmsp/ but I can't seem to get anything to work. Any suggestions? I've searched the forums on the Cycling '74 website but I haven't found any threads about the Wacom that have some patch downloads or more specific information/instruction. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members tjwett Posted January 17, 2009 Members Share Posted January 17, 2009 Yeah, I don't want to use the Wacom to program, but rather as a performance instrument. Unfortunately I feel like I'm going to spend all 30 days of the Max demo period trying to learn how to get the thing going and have little (if any) time to actually try the Wacom as an instrument. I've read a few tutorials online about MAX, one of which says you shouldn't code things that are unnecessary,; for example I could run my controller data into an existing softsynth rather than recreating softsynths as part of my Max patch. If I could run into the virtual analog synths inside Logic (Sculpture would also be interesting) that would be great. Looking at http://little-scale.blogspot.com/search/label/wacom it seems this would be possible if the data is converted to some sort of 'software midi interface' inside the mac osx system before being parsed by Logic (or Live, as shown in this example). But I'm still stuck at trying to get any sort of basic patch to read the tablet in Max... I looked here http://www.jmc.blueyeti.fr/download.html but even when I try to install those objects I don't see them in Max. I tried some other links http://www.lma.cnrs-mrs.fr/%7EIM/en_telecharger.htm http://www.akustische-kunst.org/maxmsp/ but I can't seem to get anything to work. Any suggestions? I've searched the forums on the Cycling '74 website but I haven't found any threads about the Wacom that have some patch downloads or more specific information/instruction.Thanks! i hear ya brother. about every year or two i get a weird nerd itch and download the Max demo, trudge through the first 25 pages of tutorial, look at the clock and my beard and then realize i've spent 48 hours typing and reading instead of making music and i throw in the towel. i've had much better luck with Reaktor, although i still only scratch the surface there. if you've got a Mac i recommend downloading the XCode tools and trying Quartz Composer. you'll be using the Wacom to control MIDI and audio in minutes. and yes, it is indeed fun with Sculpture. the one app like this i actually consider to be semi "immediate" is Plogue Bidule. i can dick around and actually make noise come out of it relatively quickly. good luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members xmlguy Posted January 17, 2009 Members Share Posted January 17, 2009 The tablet is still essentially 2D with expression/pressure. The 3D wiimote stuff looks a lot more interesting: The formant stuff at 5:40 is very cool.[YOUTUBE]ESDzYYl0__s&fmt=18[/YOUTUBE] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members willi Posted January 20, 2009 Author Members Share Posted January 20, 2009 if you've got a Mac i recommend downloading the XCode tools and trying Quartz Composer. you'll be using the Wacom to control MIDI and audio in minutes. and yes, it is indeed fun with Sculpture. the one app like this i actually consider to be semi "immediate" is Plogue Bidule. i can dick around and actually make noise come out of it relatively quickly. good luck. Yeah I have a Mac, and on that note, Motion 2.0 and higher have support for MIDI input for realtime visualization as well. I haven't played with it, though. Do you have any sample code for Quartz Composer that you'd be willing to share, by chance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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