why did you sell your mopho?

i'm considering getting a mopho and i noticed a lot of people unloading here as of late.

i'll be triggering it live and i want something small and portable that has fast envelopes and makes good bleep and bloop noises/FX. i'll be doing some minor programming but nothing crazy, mostly just tweaking existing presets... no crazy modulation stuff live.

i can't see myself needing access to more than 4 knobs live and as long as it sounds good the used price is pretty unbeatable.

just curious if people are selling it cause of the lack of knobs? sound? build quality? user interface?

also i don't like needing a computer to program my hardware, so if it's impossible to do anything with it without the software than it's off.

i'm also considering a desktop evolver, but i already have a MEK and i really like the mopho's assignable knobs. thanks for your input!

Although I was willing to deal with the lack of interface, I wasn't willing to deal with buggy software. The software has ghosts in it, half the {censored} i wanted to do wouldn't work, the save button would destroy my program and either reload a the preset, or load some half version my my patch, seemly at random. The patches that i did manage to save would sound completely different when connected to the software, then they would with the mopho all alone. The sequencer, good lord, i don't even want to think about it....

I could go on like this but I don't want to relive it. I've heard that PC software works better then the mac stuff that I was trying to use.

bummer... you're talking about the software editor right? are you not into programming desktop synths like that without editors in general or is the mopho particularly difficult to do without an editor?

The four knobs are really meant for live tweaking. Like you said, you proabably wouldn't need to change more than 4 parameters, and a few things even have dedicated knobs (like cutoff).

Trying to program an entire patch via those knobs, though, is just not feasible. You would be constantly having to reassign the knobs to edit the params you want to change. You really need to use the software editor to edit patches, and this is where I lost interest. For me, the joy of hardware is to be separate from the PC; If I have to edit with the PC, I may as well use a VST.

Good point, and the main reason I have never got a Matrix 1000 (as much as I wanted one). All that power under the bonnet, but that bonnet is welded shut!

I sold a MicroQ for the same reason. It actually has a simple interface for lack of knobs, but too much switching between parameter banks. That thing sound friggin awesome too, and at a great price.

I too try to stay away from hardware that relies too much on a PC.

Right now I'm trying to figure out how to map the controls to my Remote Sl.

I think the thing sounds absolutely awesome, though to be fair it's my first analog synth. Just scrolling through the presets, I've found some sounds that are real game-changers for me.

If I can figure out this control-mapping business, I'll probably actually sell it and grab a tetra to replace it. But not yet!

Ahh, you're trying to do exactly what I intended to do when *I* first got it! I knew getting into it that it wasn't really meant to be programmed from it's own panel, and I had the grand idea of setting up some templates on my ReMOTE SL for programming it!

Unfortunately, I got bogged down in the shear number of parameters the Mopho has and in the tedium in setting up templates from scratch on the SL. So, in my infinite laziness, I gave up.

You already have one of those. Why bother with a Mopho?

this will be for a live project and i haven't decided if i want to lug the MEK to dirty bars... also i might end up wanting to use both.

requiring a software editor is a deal breaker for me too... so it sounds like programming on the evolver desktop would be less of a headache? that's unfortunate.

I've not tried the desktop Evolver, but it was intended to be programable without software; The button/knob matrix looks like reasonable UI to me.

For what you need, the Mopho will probably be fine. Build quality is fine, and the sound is outstanding. Quick tweaking is easy, too. It's just the deep editing that is painfully tedious.

Peoples:

What about a Mopho+equally cheap Behringer BCR2000?

:poke:

If there's already a setup for the BCR2000 for the Mopho, or if you have the patience to set it up yourself, I imagine that would be a fine combo.

If I had a mopho, I would sell it to buy my Tetra which is 4 mophos in one and is greater than the sum of its parts IMO.

Why not have a Tetra in the first place? :poke:

This was my exact experience.

i'm on a budget. also this would be my first desktop and the tetra looks like too much synth in a little box for me right now.

I'd say go for the desktop Evolver, you ought to be able to find an inexpensive one used.

I officially can't figure out how to map controls to the mopho with my Remote SL. It has to be something on the Mopho's end because I successfully was able to map everything I wanted on the Nord Wave. This is so frustrating...I'm admittedly a complete noob when it comes to Midi / hardware stuff but this is just unbelievably obnoxious to deal with.

If I remember right, the Mopho uses NRPNs, which is different from just straight CC's. I know it's possible to do with the SL because I did manage to get a few parameters mapped.

Can you tell me anything, if you remember, about selecting the NRPN #. It only gives that option for CC's and for NRPN's there's lsb && msb. I should probably read up on this outside the mopho and remote SL manuals...

I might even still have my half-finished template, let me check later and see if I can tell you how I had it set up.

Yes that would be awesome.

I actually just got it to properly respond to a CC for the first time. Yay.

My main question would be how to change the NRPN# as, like I said before, that's not an option when I select that under Control on the Edit screen.