Members workstation M.I Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 The demos, that is. http://www.rolandus.com/go/jupiter-80/ Solo patches sound really good on their own. When it comes to full-on orchestral though, Roland seems to think that it all revolves around Hans Zimmer because that's what those demos sound like. Is there NO one on Team Roland that understands how a REAL orchestra operates? With ALL supernatural sounds on this board, one couldn't be blamed for expecting *much* more.... The "orchestral demos" simply don't reflect this.Especially in light of what I've already heard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sani Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 What is "orchestral" as a keyboard patch supposed to be or sound like? Do you understand how a real orchestra operates? If yes, how are you managing to play it with two hands and 10 fingers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DJ RAZZ Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 Unfortunatly Hardware synths and workstations are behind the game on this type of sound. To me Software sounds better there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caligvla Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 It's pretty difficult if not impossible to "play" an orchestra on a keyboard and make it sound right in one pass ... Or even with various splits playing creatively with two independent hands ... Multitracking in a recording environment is the key here ... Playing live, not as much ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DJ RAZZ Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 It's pretty difficult if not impossible to "play" an orchestra on a keyboard and make it sound right in one pass ... Or even with various splits playing creatively with two independent hands ... Multitracking in a recording environment is the key here ... Playing live, not as much ... Yes I have done a few multitrack orchestra scores for different projects. Playing different parts at different dynamics and using harmony is the key. The source of the sounds become less prominate then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members ChristianRock Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 Unfortunatly Hardware synths and workstations are behind the game on this type of sound. To me Software sounds better there. Well, duh. A 200-Gb software collection that costs 3,000 dollars (and where everything takes forever to load) is not viable in hardware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caligvla Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 For orchestral "flavors" a workstation in the right hands is more than adequate imo ... If you're doing serious soundtrack work where the orchestration is all, you probably already have one or more of the nice packages ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members The Audacity Works Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 When it comes to full-on orchestral though, Roland seems to think that it all revolves around Hans Zimmer because that's what those demos sound like.If the Jupiter-80 made me sound like Hans Zimmer, I'd buy one in a second. And if people asked me what kind of music I make, I'd say "orchestral". Not "classical", though, 'cause that'd be crazy! EDIT: Actually, if it made me sound like Hans Zimmer, I'd sound like nothing. You have to say "Hans Zimmer's ghost composers". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Meatball Fulton Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 You have to say "Hans Zimmer's ghost composers". The Andy Warhol of music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Caligvla Posted September 9, 2011 Members Share Posted September 9, 2011 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members workstation M.I Posted September 10, 2011 Author Members Share Posted September 10, 2011 What is "orchestral" as a keyboard patch supposed to be or sound like? Do you understand how a real orchestra operates? If yes, how are you managing to play it with two hands and 10 fingers? Two hands, Ten Fingers and 16 tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members sani Posted September 10, 2011 Members Share Posted September 10, 2011 Two hands, Ten Fingers and 16 tracks. There are no 16 tracks because the jp80 is 4 part multitimbral when it comes to midi. If you record audio, you get as much tracks as your computer can handle it. And in that case it's completely irrelevant how a demo from the company sounds. If you like the solo instruments and you record "orchestral" stuff, you probably know how to get it "right". In the case of the "orchestral" demo, they just used a registration where some strings and woodwinds/brass are mixed together to give you an idea how it sounds and what can be done in real time by playing the keyboard live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.