Members AlwayzMisBhavin Posted January 29, 2003 Members Share Posted January 29, 2003 This is driving me crazy.. I can sing them great! but writing harmonies or "figuring them out" is hard!! lol.. Anyone with advice??? Thanks in advance... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kingnome Posted January 29, 2003 Members Share Posted January 29, 2003 First you need to write great melodies like Simon, then you need that balding frizz like Garfunkel. (Hey........couldn't hurt.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlwayzMisBhavin Posted January 29, 2003 Author Members Share Posted January 29, 2003 Originally posted by Kingnome First you need to write great melodies like Simon, then you need that balding frizz like Garfunkel. (Hey........couldn't hurt.) lmao.. I must be like like a Manilow.. I write the words.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members spinman Posted January 30, 2003 Members Share Posted January 30, 2003 A lot (not all) of their stuff is just locked thirds. Nothing that fancy. Paul did write some smashing melodies, though, didn't he?I might have to dust off the turntable tomorrow... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rickenvox Posted January 30, 2003 Members Share Posted January 30, 2003 Originally posted by Kingnome First you need to write great melodies like Simon, then you need that balding frizz like Garfunkel. (Hey........couldn't hurt.) I was thinking the same thing - if you could write a melody like Paul Simon you'd be way ahead of the game and are probably asking the wrong people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kingnome Posted January 31, 2003 Members Share Posted January 31, 2003 Originally posted by rickenvox ....[you] are probably asking the wrong people. Who would you ask, "Why can't I" write harmonies like Simon and Garfunkel, your analyst? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlwayzMisBhavin Posted January 31, 2003 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2003 Originally posted by Kingnome Who would you ask, "Why can't I" write harmonies like Simon and Garfunkel, your analyst? Hmmm... haven't seen an analyst in many many years.. you think I need one again? lol j/k (I hope you'd all say no) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Picker Posted January 31, 2003 Members Share Posted January 31, 2003 Writing harmonies is not easy (although some people do seem to have a knack for it). Brian Wilson learned to write 5 part harmonies initially by listening to a band he liked then trying to reproduce the parts. He would record all the parts himself and gradually learned how the harmonies worked. You might try a similar thing w/ S&G ... record one part and try to sing the other. Write out the parts instead of just trying to think them etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlwayzMisBhavin Posted January 31, 2003 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2003 Originally posted by Picker Writing harmonies is not easy (although some people do seem to have a knack for it). Brian Wilson learned to write 5 part harmonies initially by listening to a band he liked then trying to reproduce the parts. He would record all the parts himself and gradually learned how the harmonies worked. You might try a similar thing w/ S&G ... record one part and try to sing the other. Write out the parts instead of just trying to think them etc. Thanks Babe.. it would be easier for you to put them to music for me.. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Picker Posted January 31, 2003 Members Share Posted January 31, 2003 Bring em on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlwayzMisBhavin Posted January 31, 2003 Author Members Share Posted January 31, 2003 Originally posted by Picker Bring em on See why I love ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DSHT Posted February 1, 2003 Members Share Posted February 1, 2003 Are you actually writing the notes..as in musical notation? Do you have a working knowledge of music theory? I studied theory for several years and found myself with a "knack' for harmonies because of it. I also sing harmonies to nearly everything I hear on the radio or from my CD's whether they already exist or not. If a song I'm listening to has a 2-part harmony, I'll sing a 3rd. It took me a long damn time to get a good grasp of writing tasteful harmonies...so I can't give you any quick fix. I will, however, reccommend a few groups/singers to listen to along with Simon and Garfunkel David Crosby with The Byrds Lennon and McCartney Beach Boys Take 6- This is very advanced harmony at work. Up to 6 parts and all A Capella Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kingnome Posted February 1, 2003 Members Share Posted February 1, 2003 Originally posted by DSHT I will, however, reccommend a few groups/singers to listen to along with Simon and Garfunkel May I add ? : The EaglesThe Outlaws-(don't laugh, they had GREAT harmonies)The Mamas and the Papas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlwayzMisBhavin Posted February 1, 2003 Author Members Share Posted February 1, 2003 Great recommendations all.. I still have a lot to learn about theory so I'll look into learning more. The bands lists are great too so I'll be listening to more of those bands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members HoHum Posted February 1, 2003 Members Share Posted February 1, 2003 Harmonies are a strong point of mine, singing is not! It all starts with a good melody, then you can build on that. I think if nothing else S&G proved that it's the songs that count. Some of their music was recorded so bad back then, they sound like demos yet, the songs still shine through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members JackSonic Posted February 1, 2003 Members Share Posted February 1, 2003 I was having the same problem just yesterday. I'm basically recording my first fully developed song and I got to the bridge, which I want to be just pure harmony (no instruments) - I realized this harmonization stuff is hard. I tried developing it using my thin knowledge of theory, but it sounded poor. After experimenting, I found that whatever sounds good is good: just sing/harmonize over the basic melody with whatever comes to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members falseaddiction Posted February 2, 2003 Members Share Posted February 2, 2003 cause u have a penis and they have a vag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kingnome Posted February 2, 2003 Members Share Posted February 2, 2003 Originally posted by falseaddiction cause u have a penis and they have a vag You mean they both have the same one? I think if I were rolling over every morning to find Edie Brickell asleep in her underwear, I'd be writing some great melodies, too. (Are they still married?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members AlwayzMisBhavin Posted February 2, 2003 Author Members Share Posted February 2, 2003 Originally posted by falseaddiction cause u have a penis and they have a vag I think you have that ass backwards.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dib432 Posted February 4, 2003 Members Share Posted February 4, 2003 Originally posted by JackSonic whatever sounds good is good: just sing/harmonize over the basic melody with whatever comes to you. Thats the only way I would reccomend writing harmonies. The only way I would reccomend practicing writing harmonies is to sing along whenever you are listening to music. Sing the harmonies, whether they are actually in the recording or not. Its the easiest ear training you can do, and is really effective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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