Members Brand0n1 Posted July 20, 2005 Members Share Posted July 20, 2005 I'm a guitarist that creates all aspects of my music digitaly accept for the vocals. I feel my production quality is very high and would like to complete some songs i have finished. I was thinking about trying to collaborate with some singers i may find on the net. Is this a bad idea? how would ownership of the songs be handled and all the legal suff? There would have to be some kind of wrtten agreement cause i dont want to rip anyone off or get taken either. Anyone have any insight as to how this might work? here is an example of the sound i'm able to create, and i got a buddy of mine to sing for me http://blyons.homeip.net/TheSith.mp3 Thanks in advance! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rockambition Posted July 21, 2005 Members Share Posted July 21, 2005 This is good stuff man. I am a rock-hard rock vocalist of 8 years so I would be willing to do something with ya if you wanted. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members alleydog Posted July 22, 2005 Members Share Posted July 22, 2005 Just copyright your music first, then you can send it anywhere. I am interested. I have a digital recorder that I can load your tracks on, do the vocs and send it your way. If you don't like the results, no harm done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brand0n1 Posted July 22, 2005 Author Members Share Posted July 22, 2005 I am looking into the copyright procedures now.I'm not trying to be anal, i just want to do things right,because i'm looking for this stuff to be possibly used and soldcommercially. Mike, What would you be using to do your recording/tracking? I'd love to hear any demo's you guys might have. here is another demo of mine that shows a little more broad spectrum of what i'm wanting to do. http://blyons.homeip.net/Demo1.mp3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Rockambition Posted July 22, 2005 Members Share Posted July 22, 2005 I have both Adobe Audition and Cool edit Pro to use to record music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brand0n1 Posted July 22, 2005 Author Members Share Posted July 22, 2005 I would like to hear a small demo from anyone interested before i decide on sending tracks. Thanks in advance! If you dont have a way to post them, digitalsoundplanet. com is free, or you can email it to me. Brandonjlyons@yahoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brand0n1 Posted July 22, 2005 Author Members Share Posted July 22, 2005 OK i think i got a grasp on things now. Here is a old recording i did a while back.(sound quality isnt great, and would have to be redone if it turns out well) I think this song will serve as a good trial cause you could sing either melodic or heavy, or both and i think it would work. http://blyons.homeip.net/Demo6.mp3 And dont worry to much about mixing, I'll handle that.I'll need just the vocal track in 16-24 bit wav form to combine with original anyway. Just need a rough draft to start with. Good luck! Look foward to hearing what ya's come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members DoubleAgent Posted July 22, 2005 Members Share Posted July 22, 2005 Nicely done man! You're an excellent producer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Brand0n1 Posted July 23, 2005 Author Members Share Posted July 23, 2005 Thanks bro! My more current mixes are sounding much better. Here is my latest work in progress. http://blyons.homeip.net/newmix.mp3 Oh how i need a singer... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members digitalsnipe Posted July 23, 2005 Members Share Posted July 23, 2005 I'm pretty sure anything you have a paper/electronic record of is legally considered copyrighted (yours) when you do it. Registering your work with the copyright office is not totally necessary unless you want to do it. So, whatever you do is legally yours until such time that you acquire collaboration. Then, it is between all collaborators who has what (precentage) claim on the work. That is what you need to get down on paper and legally witnessed (signatures). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rim Posted July 25, 2005 Members Share Posted July 25, 2005 To answer your question of: "how would ownership of the songs be handled and all the legal suff?" I don't know for sure, but it probably depends on how involved the collaboration is in the creative process. If you already have the melody and lyrics all worked out and just need someone to sing it, the singer may only be entitled to "mechanical rights" which basically means the singer has rights to his/her performance but not to the song itself (which I believe is called "publishing rights"). I think this is similar to hiring a studio musician to record. If the collaboration involves more of the creative process (helping out with the melody and/or lyrics), then publishing rights could be granted. This should be spelled out before the collaboration so no problems pop up in the future. Speaking of rights, you used part of the Star Wars music in your song. I know George Lucas is pretty open about fans using his intellectual property but I would check to see if that includes the music used in the movies. I think the music is actually composed by John Williams and he may not be as open to "sampling" as Lucas is. I'm no professional, though, so take it for what it's worth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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