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"A Second Chance Romance"


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I like this... I feel the vocals need to come down a touch, they are a bit too high in the mix. Maybe add a bit more room reverb to the vocals too?

 

I like the piano playing too, I like how you follow the vocal line a little bit with the piano during the crescendos.

 

a second chance romance, quite catchy... where have I heard this before?

 

this song needs strings;)... very pretty.

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I like this... I feel the vocals need to come down a touch, they are a bit too high in the mix. Maybe add a bit more room reverb to the vocals too?


I like the piano playing too, I like how you follow the vocal line a little bit with the piano during the crescendos.


a second chance romance, quite catchy... where have I heard this before?


this song needs strings;)... very pretty.

 

Thanks Smross!

 

Funny, Cal said the same thing about the strings. I guess I'll have to add them.

 

Not sure about the vocal though. I'm from the old school - Sinatra, Streisand, Bennett, etc, where the vocal is way on top of the mix. I guess you can't teach old dogs like Cal and me old tricks.:lol:

 

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pictures is perty. i like that perty love picture. hehehe. no one here does that. i tried to insert a picture myself here, but it didn't work out. ...it was of a monkey sitting on his balls. awesome.

 

all kiding and facetiousness aside, i LOVE that you put a picture up. it kind of points out that visual imagery is a necessary thing in music these days...and it's an element to MY work that i have to develop. there's an artistic integration even in the shallow pop music of visual/aural elements.

 

about the song:

nice harmonic rhythm. i like your chord choices. some of the 'fanciness' and trills in the piano playing screams "hotel lounge" a bit too much for my taste, but that's just that: taste. it WOULD keep me from listening, though....and not to be presumptious, but i think it might deter many. maybe a simplification is in order.

 

i whole-heartedly agree that something is missing in this arrangment. strings are the obvious choice, but maybe you could get creative and surprise us all. the chorus needs to be 'marked' better - i'm thinking in a dynamic way. it's essentially feeling like "the end of the verse" rather than "a new section" (mind you: this is from a DYNAMICS perspective.. . .NOT harmony...i like the chords and the melody change. ) perhaps this is where your other part comes in with a complimentary/secondary theme. if you really want to get fancy, that complimentary/secondary theme could be introduced in the beginning. . .. . okay...now i'm making it MY song. do your thang. :thu:

 

as far as the vocals, i don't know if they're too loud of if they're just not sitting well in the mix from an EQ standpoint. . . i think it's a combination of both. i love up-front vocals as much as the next guy, but something isn't mixing right.

 

she has a pretty voice, but she's a bit off vocally in places. it's intimate and close, so the part needs to be pegged in music like this. attitude-laden indie music has room for slightly out of tune singing, but this needs the treatment. either a few re-takes or melodyne/autotune, if that sort of thing doesn't bother you. also, maybe a little barely-noticable delay on the voice would add a bit of needed room...dunno. not an engineer.

 

anyway, good work!

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Great collab Johnny Boy.... I like all the little things you're playing on the piano, it's melodic and interesting. The vocals are very good too, with nice tone, sustain and vibrato. The vocals are a little sibilant, nothing major though. I like the vocal melody - very "sophisticated" sounding. I'm not familiar with this type of music but I really like it. Is this an original?

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Thanks Blues and Idol! I guess I'm posting too much, I'm losing track of all my tracks.

 

I'll definitely add strings to this in the near future.

 

Yeah, I always see visuals in everything I compose - usually sexy women. Does that make me a womanizer?

 

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Thanks Smross!


Funny, Cal said the same thing about the strings. I guess I'll have to add them.


Not sure about the vocal though. I'm from the old school - Sinatra, Streisand, Bennett, etc, where the vocal is way on top of the mix. I guess you can't teach old dogs like Cal and me old tricks.
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I agree,,, leave the vocals where they are in the mix. groups that sink the vocals in my opinion do it because they are trying to hide them because they are weak. The old saying goes if you got it flaunt it. Do you guys do any old standard gigs where you do frank. babs, and that type of thing. I would think there would be some very good money in that in up scale places doing that kind of covers... rat

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Hey rhat! In my earlier years I did play gigs. Probably a thousand weddings and a steady nightclub gig. We were a "house band", which meant we had to back all the shows - everything from singers to strippers.


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I could see you guys doing well ,,, writing stuff for commericals and ad jingles. While not the most high profile stuff ..... its low key, creative music that there is a market for, and you dont have to go do the gig thing. The worst part of bands is the loading in and out. Barry did real well with that.....Alot of people dont appreciate the soft side of pop music...I would guess that its because it takes more talent than fuzz and buzz stuff......I am envious of your piano skills. I grew up in the junk yard dog school of rock and blues keyboards ....Never really great ,, but good enough to sit in the mix and be tight... solos were never my strong point. rat

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Yeah, I remember those "moving equipment around" days Rhat (I don't miss 'em). Although we had a steady gig in a night club, many Saturdays we had to move our equipment to a wedding reception - then back to the club.

 

There's a lot to be said about the "junk yard dog school". Performing experience can't come from music school. One has to step into the real game to gain that experience. Not that I'm knocking a formal education - both schools have merit.

 

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