Moderators Lee Knight Posted June 24, 2011 Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2011 Share your influences. You know the drill blah blah blah... Hands down, the best book I've read on songwriting is one I've been reading all week by artist Danny Cope out of Leeds, UK. Righting Wrongs Writing Songs http://www.amazon.com/Righting-Wrongs-Writing-Songs-Danny/dp/159863531X You can go to his website and hear some of his songs. The first one to auto-queue up is Another Go. Cool staight pop tune. No bs, just good tunage. http://www.dannycope.com/wordpress/ The book is a pop analyzer's dream. It's very systematic but at the same time he admits, sometimes you just close your eyes and let it come out... ...but sometimes you don't. Or can't. And this is where he has oddles of wonderful analysis techniques to then transfer on to your work in progress. Highly recomended by yours truly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 Hmmm... I may take you up on this and order that book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members bee3 Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 I was really keen on this band when I was in high school... and always loved this song and how they managed to reference other bands without coming off cheesy. Just a really cool song. [video=youtube;Fp4abwz7CoE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fp4abwz7CoE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'd traded in my skinny ties for tie-dyes, owned a semi-hollow Rickenbacker and a Fender practice amp, and was busy porting all of my acoustic fingerpicked riffs to work on a flatpicked electric. It was 1985, and I was listening to a lot of REM... [video=youtube;Tv4nuD7q2uQ] [video=youtube;KA57Pafq_NU] We went our separate ways (It's not you/It's me/We said/Simultaneously), but we kept in touch and still hooked up occasionally. [video=youtube;gD3cYh5Pp1I] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD3cYh5Pp1I [video=youtube;ZIOXQp-YGpQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIOXQp-YGpQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIOXQp-YGpQ Posting about Death Cab For Cutie made me think of this - same pattern (Beloved/Popular/Respected/???). I was thinking about U2 as well, but there was a period of time where I just despised U2, which never really happened with REM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted June 24, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2011 You went through a period of despising U2?? Just a temporary thing? Cause like, it's sort of ongoing for me. I remember digging their first album. Then my sister going to school in London and reporting back to me here in the states her U2 club/concert experience. The opening act is The Alarm. A band Bono was championing. So he comes out before the opener. The crowd of worshipers freaks. Then he goes into his selfless introduction of the opening act. Ladies and Gentlemen. The second greatest rock and roll band in the world!! The ALARM!!! That was early on and it sort of spelled out what I would witness for the following few decades of humble, selfless bono narcissism. OK... that's me opening the floodgates to slamming artists instead talking about what we like! Let's do this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 OK... that's me opening the floodgates to slamming artists instead talking about what we like! Let's do this! Bring it, baby. I was a junior in high school when Under a Blood Red Sky came out, and it was HUGE in my social scene. By the time I got to college, and Joshua Tree was HUGE in the general population, the loathing had set in. But sometime around Achtung Baby they had changed, I had changed, and they kind of won me over again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted June 24, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2011 Lets just say, I wont be wearing any wraparounds any time soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members eeglug Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 I liked the early U2 hits, started to go lukewarm with Unforgettable Fire, despised Joshua Tree and Rattle&Hum, lukewarm on Achtung Baby (but give em credit for doing a sort of post-modern twist on themselves) and really enjoyed Zooropa which for me comes closest to filtering U2 through the Eno treatment, almost like an addendum to Low or Taking Tiger Mountain. The rest I can do without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Mark Blackburn Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 A friend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted June 24, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2011 Jack Sheldon! [video=youtube;mEJL2Uuv-oQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mEJL2Uuv-oQ [video=youtube;2ubZjIPZ2EI]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ubZjIPZ2EI&feature=related Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 Nice. Never heard them before. LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted June 24, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2011 The singer sounds like a cross between Bob Geldof, Lou Reed and Donavon. Very cool tune. I love the gated/chopped guitar track pulsing away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 I just today learned of the passing of my all-time favorite trumpet player, Jack Sheldon. Jack Sheldon did a couple of tracks with the Tierney Sutton Band on their On the Other Side CD a few years ago. He did a marvelous vocal duet with Tierney on "I Want to Be Happy." I highly recommend that you download it from iTunes. It swings, plus it's deliciously funny. The perfect embodiment of Jack Sheldon's persona. I first saw Jack Sheldon on Ed Sullivan in the early-to-mid '60s. He was doing stand-up. I was in my early teens and loved comedians. (For a while, as a kid, I wanted to take over The Tonight Show when Carson retired.) I thought Jack Sheldon was the absolute funniest comic I'd ever seen. I mean helpless, milk-up-your-nose funny. Very few comics, if any, could make me laugh as hard. I also had musical aspirations at the time, so imagine my surprise and delight when a few years after I first "discovered" Sheldon, he appeared on Sullivan again, this time playing "The Shadow of Your Smile!" Here he is doing "Nature Boy," with a sitarist no less, from a 1968 album. What tones! [video=youtube;qNWGane5SAE] One of my favorite tunes, written by Vernon Duke and Yip Harburg. [video=youtube;THVbabl8ae4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THVbabl8ae4 Jack Sheldon is fabulous! LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members stickboymusic Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 I think im very much responsible for a lot of these 3 million views sometimes simple chords, great lyrics and an amazing voice is all it takes [video=youtube;62i9Sodwp5o] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 Some of my favorite Paul Simon "little" jazz-inflected songs (from the S&G days). [video=youtube;6Pf1zYwpSWQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Pf1zYwpSWQ [video=youtube;-5hsXZPbb4g] The soaring harmonies on this one have been used for a recent car commercial. [video=youtube;-IwYQ1Vqf_4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-IwYQ1Vqf_4 LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Moderators Lee Knight Posted June 24, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2011 That Sheldon Nature Boy is killer. One of my all time favorite tunes. And that Sebesky arrangement is awesome. Sebesky had that turtleneck and medallion sort of sound to his work. Cool baby. Of course Jack nails it in his very soulful way. He played like he sang. Or the other way around. Loved Jack as a kid on the Merv show. Those two last S & G's, Only Living Boy and Lloyd Wright are also two of my all time favorite tunes. Hey, lots of awesome today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 06/24/11 Reports of Jack Sheldon's Death False That's good to know. And it's kind of fitting. Jack Sheldon seemed to have a habit of kind of falling off the grid and then reviving himself in one way or another over the years. LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moderators Lee Knight Posted June 24, 2011 Author Moderators Share Posted June 24, 2011 06/24/11 Reports of Jack Sheldon's Death False By JazzTimes Earlier this morning we mistakenly published an obituary on Los Angeles-based trumpeter Jack Sheldon, based on unconfirmed reports from within the jazz community that Sheldon had died. Sheldon is not deceased. His wife, Dianne Sheldon, has confirmed that Sheldon is alive and well and in Los Angeles. Mrs. Sheldon also said that she does not know how the rumors began. JT regrets the error. http://jazztimes.com/articles/27900-reports-of-jack-sheldon-s-death-false Hah! He must be planning Schoolhouse Rocks Again and wanted some press! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted June 24, 2011 Members Share Posted June 24, 2011 Re: "What Is There to Say?" I first came across this tune on a Bill Evans recording (Everybody Digs Bill Evans). Talk about deep piano. [video=youtube;GU8AwOPrVhk] Here's Nat King Cole. [video=youtube;4AfYQ6-iPLk] And Lena Horne, singing the original verse (which has a distinctively Harburgian dynamic). [video=youtube;dLUxgFd3124] I adore this song. But I like Bill Evans' and Jack Sheldon's best. LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted June 25, 2011 Members Share Posted June 25, 2011 I forget what happened to that guitar - I bought it used for $250 with money saved from my dishwashing job, carried it with me through the fields running away from my parent's house - in some ways I would love to have it back again but I never play in that style any more so it would objectively just be a nostalgic waste of perfectly good cash. Still, in 85-86 I spent a lot of time playing arpeggios on that guitar. Here's another band I worked through (and eventually got over)... [video=youtube;D-o8VSCOytg] [video=youtube;O5DE8UQnM5Y] [video=youtube;GKz0xQGE0gk] [video=youtube;kGnjrTkv1gs] These videos are a trip to watch again. WTF were we thinking? Where were the fashion police? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dingoist Posted June 25, 2011 Members Share Posted June 25, 2011 [video=youtube;jQxd31k4VQ8] [video=youtube;QJYjr-vUKZM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJYjr-vUKZM [video=youtube;68LAbJtd4uk] What can I say, in the 80s, I had a few idols (which including the 70's version of Billy Joel). It included the Jello Biafra, The Dead Milkmen, Iggy Pop, Circle Jerks, etc. Oh, and also Thomas Dolby... (weird mix, but for me this was the time I experienced MUSIC, so I was all over the place with influences, learning musical instruments, going to gigs and just embracing it.... this was my 80s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rsadasiv Posted June 25, 2011 Members Share Posted June 25, 2011 What can I say, in the 80s, I had a few idols (which including the 70's version of Billy Joel). It included the Jello Biafra, The Dead Milkmen, Iggy Pop, Circle Jerks, etc. Oh, and also Thomas Dolby... (weird mix, but for me this was the time I experienced MUSIC, so I was all over the place with influences, learning musical instruments, going to gigs and just embracing it.... this was my 80s). Yeah, I was listening to this stuff too - I just didn't spend a lot of time trying to play it. In '86 my roommate played this almost every morning while he was brushing his teeth.[video=youtube;-KTsXHXMkJA] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members LCK Posted June 27, 2011 Members Share Posted June 27, 2011 A friend from college (we were in a band together, he played bass), sent me a link to this website, where Daryl Hall has new, interesting artists come play at his home. I really enjoyed "Strange Arrangement" by Mayer Hawthorne. http://www.livefromdarylshouse.com/currentep.html?ep_id=58 LCK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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