Members Alanfc Posted October 15, 2005 Members Share Posted October 15, 2005 please, let me know if any pros do this out there for clients: 1. I mix the whole CD at my place, with FX, levels and panning. Me and the band agree on it all, sounds about 70% there. 2. then, I give all tracks, with NO FX-levels-panning, to a pro to mix, along with full mix stereo files of my rough version that the band liked. As a guide. 3. then Pro mixer does his thing and makes it sound like we WISH it could sound. With his gear in his pro listening environment. Maybe get a second dude to master. thanks if you can opinionate on this for me:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Matt Hepworth Posted October 15, 2005 Members Share Posted October 15, 2005 Sure, fairly common. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members MASSIVE Master Posted October 16, 2005 Members Share Posted October 16, 2005 I could even suggest two very good and fairly "budget friendly" places that work on a lot of "home brewed" stuff... Jason Walsh - www.farviewrecording.com Bruce Valeriani - www.bluebearsound.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alanfc Posted October 20, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2005 COOL thanks guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted October 20, 2005 Share Posted October 20, 2005 Originally posted by Alanfc please, let me know if any pros do this out there for clients: 1. I mix the whole CD at my place, with FX, levels and panning. Me and the band agree on it all, sounds about 70% there. Okay, I'm with you so far... 2. then, I give all tracks, with NO FX-levels-panning, to a pro to mix, along with full mix stereo files of my rough version that the band liked. As a guide. Okay, a scratch stereo mix with the "general idea" you're looking for is handy to have... it helps the engineer to have an idea of where you want to go with everything. But why stop at that? Why not just send them a copy of the entire project? IOW, I'd recommend sending a stereo mix (.WAV would be best, MP3's can suffice), as well as the whole project file in two versions - with and without your levels, efx, panning, etc. The person mixing may or may not use some of what you've already done... and if they can use some of it, it might save them some time, and you some money. 3. then Pro mixer does his thing and makes it sound like we WISH it could sound. With his gear in his pro listening environment. Maybe get a second dude to master. Ideally you always want to get a third person involved for the mastering. Tracking and mixing being done by the same person isn't all that unusual, but except in cases of "budget challenges", I would recommend the services of a good outside ME. thanks if you can opinionate on this for me:) What you're asking for isn't uncommon at all these days. I occasionally get projects to mix from outside California, and frequently get things in that were partially or even completely tracked at other (frequently home based) studios for mixing. I think that some studio folks find home studios a troubling trend due to the reduction in demand for their services, but IMO a bit of diversification is a good idea. By embracing that, and providing services that the "home based" crowd need but can't easily do themselves at home, you can adapt to the changing climate and still thrive. For example, not everyone has the room, isolation and gear needed to track drums or whole rhythm sections at home. So partner with them... do the drums at your place, send them home with the sessions to do their keyboard parts and gtr overdubs or whatever, bring it back for vocal tracking through your nice mics, send it home with them for more tweaking and then have them bring it back for the mix... I'm cool with all of that. However, sometimes you wind up with absolute crap that way from people who don't know how to track. At that point, you can either try to help them with their home tracking with some suggestions and tips, or they might realize that maybe they're not quite ready to DIY and need you to do all the recording for them instead. Of course, you can always reserve the right to "pass" on doing a mix if you feel the quality of the overdubs and recordings are not up to snuff... and I've done that a few times. But normally, I'm all about working WITH people, and I think that by being willing to be a bit flexible, and adapting, home and pro guys can co-exist in peace and harmony and everyone can win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Alanfc Posted October 20, 2005 Author Members Share Posted October 20, 2005 excellent thanks Phil our methods for this next CD are definitely going to be a change from the first, like going to a real studio to record the ryhthm section, doing harmony vocals all together around the same mic, etc. Since my original post, I've sold the band on the outside mastering idea but they still want me to mix (since we're all avg income working guys doing this for fun). Mixing this time will actually be a million times easier for me than the first I know it. These new songs will have fewer tracks and more open arrangements:)thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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