Members Walters9515 Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 What tube condensor or solid state or FET condensor mic has really high output? I'm looking for a high output condensor mic who makes them and what model? From the manual how do u find out which condensor mics have high output or whats the output rating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitwizz Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kiwiburger Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 That's funny. Most people look for mics that sound good. Plenty of cheap chinese condensor mics have hot output. They sound like {censored} too. Next you'll be asking how to stop them clipping??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 I'm looking for a hot output mic Tube condensor emulation When i put three or more shure 57 a close up , like 2 feet away a room shure 57 mic going into 3 tracks this gave me like a condensor mic should do all in one mic don't u think? It picks up the room as well as add depth, better frequency response, higher output One shure 57 can't give more depth or pickup the room sound also so i used 3 or more shure 57's mics and it worked i just have 3 to 5 mics going into a mixer going out 2 stereo but my vocals , acoustic guitars sound like a expensive condensor mic would. I thought a condensor mic would give this depth, room sound all in one mic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 It's a troll trap, don't fall for it. Please please don't encourage him, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 I'm looking for a condensor mic that does this sound that picksup the vocals and the room adding depth like having 3 to 5 shure 57 at different distances pickup up the room and depth i thought a condensor does this all in one mic because of the higher output? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kiwiburger Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 Just go to Guitar Centre and ask them for their hottest condensor mic with tube emulation. If that doesn't get a parking lot answer, I don't know what would. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 The manuals for tube /fet/solid state condensors mics don't say what the output volume is, or how hot is it how would i find this out? Which condensor mics give the sound of like 3 shure mics placed at different distancs and room mics i know some condensor mics pickup , headroom, pickup the room sound Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kiwiburger Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 Walters - I have to consider your past history and some of the other stuff you've told us about yourself. Basically - you seem to be pretending to be completely ignorant about the very basics of recording. Like right now, you seem to acting as though you don't now about the differences in mic pickup patterns (cardioid, omni, figure 8 etc). BUT - from previous things you've told us, you claim to have considerable experience in old school analog recording techniques. Very few people have this experience you claim to have - so this is why many people who know your past threads actually think you are some older experienced engineer who is yanking our chains. I've even wondered if you were Fletcher at one point, because of similaries in shared knowledge. Some of your posts make me wonder if you are a split personality, or maybe some other people are in on the joke and share your signon. But other times, your posts are so childish, I don't think any experienced guy (no matter how burnt out or mischeivious) could stoop to that level. Or maybe that's part of the game. You're still a mystery man/woman Walter(s) or whoever your real name is. I find it intriguing that Fletcher emailed Phil about Walters when Phil started this forum here. I'd love to know what he said - I find this interest in a mere troll to be unusual to say the least. Does Walters serve some commercial purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 So a condensor mic can't do what im saying is pickup up the room sound and adding depth with highter output ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kiwiburger Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 No mere mortal can be this stupid. No single condenser mic is going to sound like 3 or 5 SM57's mixed down to a stereo mic. Don't be silly. If you want gobs of room sound, get an omni mic or two. Dynamic or condensor, doesn't matter. If you want lots of hot bright nasties, get a cheap condensor mic. Did you even try the NTK? From your comment about phantom power, i'm not sure you did. The Rode power supply supplies the power to that tube mic - not the phantom power on your mixer. If you like that tube sound, nothing else is going to give it to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitwizz Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 Walters is from California, but types like a Samoan scam artist, why is that? Walters, get the cheapest MXL LDC you can find, it even says on the box, "Sounds exactly like a tribe of SM 57's".... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 >>When i put three or more shure 57 a close up , like 2 feet away a room shure 57 mic going into 3 tracks this gave me like a condensor mic should do all in one mic don't u think?>> There's a few ways to do this, Walters! 1.) Use Shure Beta 57s. They have hotter output. 2.) Use 3 condensers in this configuration. They too have hotter output. a Neumann TLM 103 has very hot output. Use that. 3.) Use 3 mic preamps that give hotter output to your 57s. It'll sound better, too! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ And let's not be silly. Walters is not Fletcher. Fletcher would never pretend he's living in California!!!! The answer's obvious. It's Bruce Swedien! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 Walters, I wanted to add: If you do Suggestion #2 but are not getting hat sound you want, make sure you put the condensers through Dynamic Emulation (obviously on the "Shure" setting). That should get you the sound you want, but with higher output. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 .) Use Shure Beta 57s. They have hotter output. Are u sure they have hotter output what makes them have a hotter output?im reading the manual it doesn't say it does? where did u find that? 2.) Use 3 condensers in this configuration. They too have hotter output. a Neumann TLM 103 has very hot output. Use that. Why does the Neumann TLM 103 have a hotter output im reading the manual it doesn't say it does? where did u find that? 3.) Use 3 mic preamps that give hotter output to your 57s. It'll sound better, too! 3 mic preamps in series or parallel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Kiwiburger Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 Walters - I don't know whether to laugh or cry. If you are trying to be funny, you aren't succeeding. If you are genuinely struggling to understand recording (which I doubt very much) you are one messed up dude. I would suggest you buy a few good books on recording, and a few therapy sessions with a shrink. Seriously - you seem to have unusual problems. Anyway - in case you are struggling: you don't seem to understand microphone pickup patterns. Omni means ALL or everywhere - like God is Omnipotent, Omnipresent and Omniscient (ALL powerfull, in ALL places, has ALL knowledge). So an Omni mic picks up sound from everywhere, although obviously on a smaller scale. Your SM57 have a Cardioid pickup pattern which is more directional. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted December 18, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 I can't find just a Omni Tube condensor mic most tube condensor mics are just Cardioid pickup pattern Which Omni Tube/solid state/FET condensor mics are just Omni only? thats in the price range under $500 dollars please? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members guitwizz Posted December 18, 2005 Members Share Posted December 18, 2005 FROOGLE!!! No, thats not a mic company, its a way to search the entire internet for ANYTHING being sold, anywhere at any store, website, even ebay..... Type in, "omnidirectional tube microphone" or "omni tube mic", or "tube mic with 2 capsules", or just do a search for tube mics and filter through the ones that are omni and cardioid...... Why do you have to have omni anyway Walter?? You got a big gorilla singing into your eyes that you want to record simultaneously? Duets are cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted December 19, 2005 Members Share Posted December 19, 2005 I think 7-11 has a sale this week on them if you buy a gallon of 1% milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted December 19, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 19, 2005 omni and cardioid Cardioid is just like my shure 57 it doesn't pickup the surrounding sounds and room sound i want that to create depth/space in vocals and acoustic guitars ,bass,keyboards,electric guitars i don't like cardioid its to flat no depth no space and to dry the Omni will give me some natural reverb/space/room/depth u know what i mean ? What Omni condensor mics do u guys know about for under $500 dollars that are good im new to this stuff so i need some information Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Walters9515 Posted December 19, 2005 Author Members Share Posted December 19, 2005 Is omni-directional the same thing as omni? because omni directional seem more like cardioid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted December 19, 2005 Members Share Posted December 19, 2005 Originally posted by Walters9515 .) Use Shure Beta 57s. They have hotter output. Are u sure they have hotter output what makes them have a hotter output?im reading the manual it doesn't say it does? where did u find that? Good designing. I happen to know that it has hotter output from personal experience. 2.) Use 3 condensers in this configuration. They too have hotter output. a Neumann TLM 103 has very hot output. Use that. Why does the Neumann TLM 103 have a hotter output im reading the manual it doesn't say it does? where did u find that? I happen to know this from personal experience too. 3.) Use 3 mic preamps that give hotter output to your 57s. It'll sound better, too! 3 mic preamps in series or parallel? You can use three new mic preamps and go line in or in series or in parallel....truly, whatever works for you! I don't know if you saw my other post, but you're quickly becoming one of my favorites! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted December 19, 2005 Members Share Posted December 19, 2005 Originally posted by Walters9515 Is omni-directional the same thing as omni? because omni directional seem more like cardioid Dude, seriously, you rule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members where02190 Posted December 19, 2005 Members Share Posted December 19, 2005 Originally posted by Walters9515 Is omni-directional the same thing as omni? because omni directional seem more like cardioid Omni cardiod is all omni directional, ponit it at your ass for directional, at your head for omni. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members UstadKhanAli Posted December 19, 2005 Members Share Posted December 19, 2005 Originally posted by Walters9515 Is omni-directional the same thing as omni? because omni directional seem more like cardioid Okay, I'm looking at your post here... Just to make sure we're talking about the same thing....is "omni-directional" the same thing as "omni directional"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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