Members Lee Flier Posted November 16, 2005 Members Share Posted November 16, 2005 My motherboard (ASUS K8N) has adapters for both IDE and SATA hard drives, and currently I just have an IDE drive in it... I just ordered an SATA drive that I will use as my main storage drive while keeping the IDE drive in there as my OS drive. Has anybody ever had problems mixing the two? Any caveats I should be aware of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil O'Keefe Posted November 16, 2005 Share Posted November 16, 2005 I'm still using all IDE drives Lee... but most of the issues I've heard about with SATA drives concerned using them as system drives and getting them formatted and installing the OS. I have the "deluxe" version of the same mobo you have (at least for the moment... those dual core AMD 4400 / 4800's are calling my name... ), and from what I've read in the manual, there shouldn't be any problems with using IDE's and SATA's simultaneously. And since you're keeping an IDE system drive, I doubt you'll run into any significant issues. I use the Promise controller on my mobo, along with the standard IDE mobo controller simultaneously with no problems, and I run (counting CD-RW and DVD+/-RW optical drives) about six internal drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members seclusion Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Yep, running a IDE 7200 IDE drive onboard, 2 IDE 7200 drives raid 0 for audio on a PCI card and 2 sata raid 0 onboard for samples all in one system , Asus A8V deluxe runs great! I am considering unraiding (is that a word?) as I tried the samples on 1 drive and haven't noticed any improvement in raid 0 from 2 single drives with onboard sata!Though my new piano sample from sampletekk TBO seems to be pushing my drives to the limit currently!But as Phil says there, there's always something better to try! Later:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rabblerabble Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 It's really SATA-Serial ATA and PATA-parallel ATA (which is your IDE drive) As long as you have drivers for the SATA drive for Winblows if your using it as the OS drive then you should have no problems. SATA is set to phase out PATA. Better transfer rates and performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Anderton Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 When mixing IDE and SATA, I recommend keeping the SATA level about -3dB under the IDE, and adding a little high end boost to the IDE. I generally pan them left and right. Sorry Lee, I couldn't resist... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members John Sayers Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 But as Phil says there, there's always something better to try! like maybe two 10,000rpm SATA drives? cheersjohn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members kptkarl Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 You will most likely have to do some BIOS fidling to get SATA to be the master boot drive. Other than that there may be some RAID functions to consider in the BIOS as well. Dig out the ole manual for the K8N and read those sections three times. Don't forget the flanger fluid! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Dylan Walters Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 There's absolutely no problems in mixing SATA and PATA on most systems. The only issue I've ever ran into with SATA is when using RAID you will usually need to have a special floppy disk from the manufactures when installing Windows on the RAID volume. Otherwise, if you're just setting up a SATA drive for data then you should have no issues. My primary DAW has a regular ATA drive for the OS and a SATA drive for the audio and it's always worked like a champ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Lee Flier Posted November 17, 2005 Author Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Cool, I didn't think it would be a problem but am NOT in a position to have any down time at the moment... so just wanted to make sure nobody had run into some stupid problem that they had to spend hours tracking down. I had heard that it can take a little more time to set up a SATA drive as the boot/OS drive, but I'm not doing that. Just need more storage. Thanks dudes! And Craig, I'm gonna get you for that one... now can you tell me how to set the bias on my hard drive? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Magpel Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 I have no problems using a SATA drive as the boot drive in my DAW--utterly routine setup, no bios tweaking. Scratch that: I do have one problem withj SATA drives--the SATA connectors are the most fragile and shallow little things. On two or three occasions when I've opened the case and gone in to install something, I've gotten drive detection errors upon rebooting simply because I've knocked the SATA cable out of the drive by accident. They make locking SATA cables. I reccomend them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members thefunkman Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Seclusion sez: "I tried the samples on 1 drive and haven't noticed any improvement in raid 0 from 2 single drives with onboard sata!" I've done some work with SCSI drives for video editors, and "what everyone says" is that you won't see much improvement using only 2 drives in a RAID setup. The improvement in "through-put" begins when you use 3 or more drives striped together. Clients at my "day job" are striping up to 8 drives for their hi-def video editing chores, and reading/writing over 100MB per second to them. The throughput is fast enough now that people are starting to stripe "with parity." This means if one of the drives fails, they can recover the data using the info contained on the other drives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members Six Stringer Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Originally posted by Lee Flier Cool, I didn't think it would be a problem but am NOT in a position to have any down time at the moment... so just wanted to make sure nobody had run into some stupid problem that they had to spend hours tracking down. I had heard that it can take a little more time to set up a SATA drive as the boot/OS drive, but I'm not doing that. Just need more storage. Thanks dudes! And Craig, I'm gonna get you for that one... now can you tell me how to set the bias on my hard drive? Lee,Funny I just posted aout this at cyberjammin.com I came across 2 - 160gb hard drives at work. I think I need a pci card to use them. What I'd really like is a usb to SATA adapter and a enclosure unit to use it as a external. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Members rabblerabble Posted November 17, 2005 Members Share Posted November 17, 2005 Wow so much misinformation in one thread . But seriously, you should check to see that your MB recognizes the drive first during POST (in BIOS). Then if you're installing winblows you need to have the SATA drivers for the drive. Press f8 i believe to install the drivers. If you don't know what RAID is don't worry, but you'll need the drivers for a RAID setup just like you would a normal winblows installation. To maximize effectiveness while protecting your drives use a RAID 5 setup, and buy more of the exact same drive since you'll need quite a few (lol). Always be nice to the connectors, they aren't as forgiving as guitars, amps, and keyboards hehe. Buy some 10K Cheetah drives for fastest i/o, but i think they are limited to around 74 GB now. Why not just buy a lot (not alot) of SCSI drives off of ebay. Sometimes you can get 10- 10GB SCSI drives pulled from servers for @ $100 or so. RAID 5 + SCSI = pwn I/O and protection although it's only 100GB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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